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Every day I am forced to confront that the the Democratic Party won the White House and Congress in 2020 and instead of doing the smart thing and ending the filibuster, packing the court, and going scorched Earth on the GOP which, mind you, had just tried to overthrow the election, they kicked back and proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note except cut a blank check for the most televised genocide of the last 30 years.

A disciplined party could have un-fucked everything trump did in the span of a few month, but they chose not to. They chose not to, and now we're all paying for it.

The purpose of a system is what it does.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Ok.

Still voting Democrat because...

  1. They are not Republicans.

  2. No 3rd party is even remotely viable and no 3rd party is doing the work necessary to become viable. The last 3rd party candidate for president received half of a single percent of the total votes cast, proving that no 3rd party can win a presidency, or even come close.

So until a 3rd party actually starts winning local/state elections (they aren't) and gets more than ZERO members in Congress, I'll keep voting Dem.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The most important elections coming up will be the primaries. It's the only opportunity progressives have of getting into office. A much better rallying cry than, "We're not voting!" Would be, "Primary all of them!"

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

I agree here. In the past there was this call for candidates to be electable but that is bullshit. Would trump be electable? We can never know so in the primaries go for what you want that is best to you.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would strongly discourage people from voting third party. I mean, have you looked at the name of the sub?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We need to just form our own parlement. With voting and laws.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So what you’re saying is we’re boned

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vote for the third party then, you absolute dunce. "No one votes third party so neither do I!"

Grow a spine.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't accuse him of not having a spine, he's grasping the game theoretic arrangement of things quite decently.

In the US, to propel a third party to power, one of the mainstream parties has to utterly lose its position. If that's going to be the Democratic party at this point of history, the US will be a dictatorship (and civil war will ensue soon). Why? Because Trump will have time to change the system to be president-for-life.

The US electoral system is a two-party system. The root cause: because a region typically has one mandate, and the winner of that region takes it all. To make third parties viable, a proportional electoral system is needed (e.g. a region has 10 mandates, distributed to parties accordig to their percentage of the vote).

When should one apply pressure to make third parties viable?

When it's calm. When there is not a wannabe dictator on the horizon. It could have been done sometime in the Clinton / Obama era, but not now. Now is a "fasten your seatbelts" period of time.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here's the fell for it again award you ordered

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

... instead of the very real bad situation that has happened with the GOP.

fell for it again

As if there are other options? Why are you blaming people for voting? Are you suggesting they vote for the GOP? What's your point?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here's the "Keep Enjoying Fascism Courtesy Of The GOP" award you fooled yourself into receiving.