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[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You don’t have to have blind devotion to something to be a fan of it.

Fan was originally short for fanatic, so it does actually imply blind devotion. Etymologically at least.

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

You know I will.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Curiously "cake" apparently comes from old Norse "kaka", which in many languages is the word for poo-poo, but is more probably related to roundness in this instance.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank god language evolves so that now a fan is someone interested in a thing

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

For the time being you will have to live with implying blind devotion when using the word "fan" to describe something other than an air circulation tool, since it was recently used in that fashion and sometimes still is. So even if you prefer the descriptive approach to linguistics this meaning is still relevant.

Side note, purely descriptive linguistics strike me as madness. I mean if the purpose of language is communication then constantly changing the definitions is kind of antithetical to that. Texts would become illegible in decades rather than centuries.

[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It evolved through the years. The actual fanatics who don't accept any criticism for their favorite show/movie/actor/singer/whatever tend to be labeled as stans. At least IME.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

IME that meaning of "stan" is way younger than I am. I remember it just being a name. And I remember "fan" being used in the way "stan" is now, so I sometimes still use it like that.

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