Probably blaspheming here, but another show like Firefly would rock. Don't try to catch that exact lighting in a bottle, just give us space cowboys. In space.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

'Cowboy bebop' did it three years earlier and much better. But then I'm very partial to jazz and film noir. Then got remade by the same people much grittier as a period piece set in immediately post-feudal police state Japan.

Edit: in kind of the same way a lot of Kurosawa films got remade as westerns

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 2 points 4 weeks ago

Bebop is very different from Firefly imo. They're both good, but I wouldn't say to watch one over the other. I can't directly compare them like that.

Bebop is smooth and classy, more focused on music and choreography. Firefly way more grounded and physical; lots of greebled grimy tools, machinery, carts.

You can see a similar divide in the themes. Firefly is way more rural, frontier type western. They get rid of small-town despots and help trading outposts under siege, because they're the only help around9. Bebop is the end of the wild west: they all have stories about the real west, but that era is over. Cities are growing, the government starts playing a role, outlaws are on the run. The heroes are struggling to let go of the past and find their place in this new world.

I also want to shout out Outlaw Star, released in the shadow of Bebop. It's not western at all, a bit messier in its theme, but still a lot of fun.

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the remade show? Samurai champloo?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Yep. Same characters, secondary characters shuffled slightly.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah I love space westerns and unfortunately they're very uncommon and rarely done well. Firefly had the huge advantages of being Whedon at his peak with a great cast (as he often had) at the right time and with the courage to commit to the genre in a way I wish more would.

I don't want more Whedon, his golden era is over and I'm now convinced that he really only excels at the overlying ideas for a show and casting. What I want is someone who loves the genre to do something similar, but better.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What about dandy guys? In space.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

space cowboys

Haven't watched ‘Firefly’, but that description sounds like 50s-60s Western sci-fi literature, which was criticized by Stanisław Lem with these exact words.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Have you watched Killjoys? Very similar vibes

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

When Star Trek: The Next Generation was announced, everybody was pissed. "You can't have Star Trek without Captain Kirk!" "The first officer is a soap opera supporting actor!" "The captain is bald??!"

And then, lo and behold, it was the best Star Trek, almost entirely absent of rehashing, paying slavish tribute to, or shamelessly trading on nostalgia for The Original Series.

So, have someone go to the used spaceship dealer, buy a rusty old Firefly class light freighter, and go off on their own adventures. Nothing wrong with new crew, same universe.