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[–] Juice@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if it is absolute correctness but there are def some viable tactics. We even have advantages as a hyper minority that major parties don't have.

I don't think that having such an extreme contradiction in your platform should be something that goes uncriticized. Lenin was explicit about when and how and why to run in elections, and his views on it changed with the conditions the revolutionary party would face.

There's also pretty sharp contradictions about running for an executive office, the Zohran Mamdani win is churning up mountains of them before he's even taken office. Its generated a ton of interest, energy and engagement though that is being converted into growing numbers of new socialists, DSA is at its highest number of members ever, becoming the largest single USAmerican socialist org in like 100 years.

There's no conclusion to be reached yet, just lots to analyse, lots to criticise, and our biases are maybe some of our worst enemies. I think we gotta be ready to be tested over and over, in a way that the ambient sectarianism of the last 50 years or so hasn't prepared us for. Imma just keep my mind on the work and try to train up as many new socialists as possible for the next phase.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mamdani's electoral victory is entryist though, so it's not an example of the standard Marxist line regardless.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it entryism? Like entry into the democratic party? Like I said I'm hesitant to draw sharp conclusions like this, I'd need to see some of the analysis behind calling it entryist, and that analysis would have to include a lot of detail pertaining to the political character of NYC-DSA.

Also curious what the "standard Marxist line" is related to Mamdani's victory. Sounds like abstraction, which is fine, but a Marxist's abstraction is only as good as the particulars it allows us to tactically engage

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's entryism because he ran as a Democrat, rather than under the banner of a socialist party. Being under the discipline of a bourgeois party is not conducive to advancing a socialist platform.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I agree. Factions in DSA call it the party surrogate strategy, these are the factions that make up the largest parts of the membership in NYC-DSA and represent the moderate social democratic wing of the org. NYC is also the largest and most electorally successful chapters in the org, which creates some deliberate tensions in contrast to DSA national.