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Scottish rock group Primal Scream superimposed swastikas combined with Stars of David over the eyes of Netanyahu & former Israeli defense minister Gallant, as well as other global politicians, in on-stage graphics during a Monday night concert, leading a Jewish security group to file a police complaint.
They were playing at the historic Roundhouse venue in north London & performed their 2000 single “Swastika Eyes.”
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If being pro Ukraine is part of anti-war-ism, that means supporting capitalist homophobic nazi-infested Russia is pro-war-ism.
I see you're kind hearted in the sense that you don't like war (assuming you're anti Zionist) but are lib and haven't read enough political theory to fully understand the root cause of it (NATO eastward expansion and western imperialism)
Ukraine wouldn't have so much western military aid if Russia didn't invade. Ukraine wouldn't want to be part of NATO so desperately if Russia didn't invade. I think it's Russia's fault NATO is expanding.
What function did NATO serve after the dissolution of the UDSSR? How did Russia turn from foe (UDSSR) to friend (Russian Federation) to foe again? Which enemy did NATO after the dissolution of the UDSSR have in order to justify the defensive alliance? What role do you think the military industrial complex played in this?
These aren't rhetorical questions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Sealioning is when you question someones understanding of a topic that they are very confident about
Nah it was kind of internal paranoia and a fear of Russia from former Warsaw pact states that lead to NATO expansion, they often weren’t forced to join. However the United States never had any problem with this and always allowed them to join knowing that Russia at the time was essentially to weak to do anything about it. As John McCaine famously said „Russia is just a gas station with nukes“ so the United States kept meddling thinking that even if Russia did invade they would easily destroy them. Basically the United States decided that winning the Cold War wasn’t enough and that instead of allowing Europe and Russia to integrate their economies and technology with each other they would rather keep us divided and fighting (imagine what kind of a huge power block Europe and Russia would of been together also we gotta keep buying American weapons and justify the occupation of our countries by US troops somehow after all the military industrial complex freaks have to eat as well)
At some point after several years of covert war in Ukraine Putin freaked the fuck out and invaded and now you have the joy of people on the internet treating this war like a football game where they pick their favourite side and shill for them as much as possible.
Both sides in that war fucking suck millions of people have died most of Europes economies have been struggling because of it and we now have to deal with a lot of political polarisation that both sides have been pushing. If you really do care about the proletariat of either of these nations you would never support this or any other shitty war, because at the end of the day the ruling classes decided they wanted this war not the masses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bThaR3A3Xc
There is a pretty cool song made by Laibach made in 1994
I don't want this war. That's why I want Russia to go home. Ukraine can't go home, because Russia's there. So the war ends if Russia goes home.
Anyways pretty funny because I’ve heard young Ukrainian men say the same to me. Of course they ran away from combat and have money, so they’re always very comfortable to send other people to die for them.
Just say you want war 🙄 don’t need to be all coy about it.
You realise geopolitics isn't a sports game, right? You can be a critic of US imperialism and Russian imperialism.
You realise that the disagreement is in our definitions of imperialism, right?
Labeling Russia simply "imperialist" or "not imperialist" is inadequate. Russia is a revisionist, semi-peripheral power with imperialist tendencies and practices, particularly in its near abroad, but lacking the integrated monopoly-finance capitalist base that defines core imperialist powers like the US.
Russia is reacting to US imperialism.
Go smoke your bong. No matter what arguments you try to pull, the moment they actually invaded Ukraine, they became THE aggressors, and are in the wrong.
They became the aggressor when you strip the context.
They will still be sorrounded by NATO after conquering Ukraine, not an improvement really.
Why would they do it then?
I'm guessing a mixture of desperation, and trying to outlive the west (if they can just grab enough resources for their needs until the west collapses, they can deal with other issues later). Still, I can't support the invasion. If they could just stop being assholes, they would have more allies, people liked Putin, and he improved Russia's reputation before the Ukraine war (and they even somewhat overlooked the Crimea invasion).
No one does. War is an extension of diplomacy
The old man wants to feel like a powerful leader before he dies, and he doesn't care what happens afterwards
I dont subscribe to great man theory understanding of history
That's okay, I only want you to subscribe to great man theory of dictatorships. You can subscribe to a different theory for other kinds of government.
I subscribe to historical materialism. Seeing as you think history is driven by great man I understand why you thought the questions I gave you are sealioning in your eyes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory
Wow, you're really bad at listening. I'm glad I didn't answer those questions
You wrote:
History isnt driven by decisions of a single person. Nation states have interests and their leaders act accordingly. If Putin hits his head and rediscovers Marx, the oligarchy will get rid of him.
Me too because it would've been great man theory brainrot anyway
The old man wants to feel like a powerful leader
And the other old man wants to feel like a powerful leader
And the other other old man wants to feel like a powerful leader
All the old men in control of Russia want to feel like powerful leaders
What about the young comedian that wants to feel like a powerful leader? And his fascist friends that want to feel like powerful leaders? and what about the cabal of pedofile leaders in the US that support him?
Not a useful framework to analyse. But you do you
If Russia just treated Ukraine proper, and not steal Crimea like they did.
Then, Ukraine would become good allies if actually treated well.
Crazy that they did just that. I'm sure there's no context
The context is probably oil, sea control, so on. They know they are on the edge when it comes to global dominance, and that it was their last chance to defeat NATO, so they resorted to realpolitik. Does not mean we should be for conquering a free and innocent country like Ukraine.
Probably? Don't guess, investigate.
A great thinker (Mao zedong) once said: "no investigation no right to speak"
Oh sure, countries invade for resources all the time, it makes sense in the geopolitical context, and we had prior examples of this happening, but I have to go find citations from several authority figures to prove what's obvious.
If there's two of you, and one of you ate the apple, and you know it's not you.
Are you going to spend time investigating?
Again, I don't buy the NATO aggression story, and I wanted to be generous and not use the Putin wants to restart the USSR theory, so what is left there?
Resource scarcity/survival.
Do you consider topling governments to privatize everything and sell weapons to also not as aggression?
Not sure where you got the idea from, but I dont think anyone seriously belives this
Who said that we were? Analysis is not justification.
The root cause for Russia to resort to realpolitik is NATO Eastward expansion aka expanding the market for western weapons manufacturers and increasing the demand for weapons by provoking conflict
...there's our difference, I just don't buy that story, because I'm not team-codded. I'm pro-Palestine, anti-Ukraine.
You don't buy the western imperialist story when they support a genocide in Palestine, but buy it when they support a banderist regime in Ukraine for them to privatize everything for western capital... Ok