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there can be two things
Ok, now quantify how many terminally online young leftists who didn't vote dem there are in the USA
Keep pretending like "Abandon Harris" and shit like that wasn't pushed relentlessly offline by "Bernie Bro" idiots.
It was mostly different elements of the Left, not really "Bernie Bros". Bernie himself was out there campaigning for Biden and Harris the entire time. I think we need a better name for the Left factions who supported Trump in the election, misidentifying them is only going to create more divisiveness. Those "Bernie Bros" who listened to Bernie during the campaign and did what they could to stop Republicans don't deserve to be lumped in with the dumbasses who actually helped them win.
I would love to know why Biden was electable but Harris was not.
Care to explain?
it's very simple. the US is rampantly, unabashedly sexist. patriarchally sexist and racist, even huge chunks of the left. i hate it. i've fought my entire adult life to change it. but that doesn't make it untrue. and we needed to win to stop waves hands frantically in the air all of this so we could keep making progress against the sexism and racism.
don't get me wrong, i voted for her and i'd do it again.
she may have been the correct choice for feminism and anti-racism. i wanted her to win, to prove that America was "better than that". but i knew it wasn't. she was not the correct choice for a winning campaign. not here, unfortunately. not yet. and now all that progress toward fixing those things is now stomped in the mud by the Dems making a bad bet.
but also, she's a police bootlicker and even i, a staunch believer that Trump is actively destroying the entire world, didn't like that.
https://blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/kamala-harris-california-top-cop/ https://capitalbnews.org/kamala-harris-criminal-justice-record/ https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/kamala-harris-has-finally-embraced-being-a-cop.html https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/harris-has-long-supported-both-law-enforcement-and-community-collaborations-that-keep-people-safe/
I can only speak from my experience, but my mom voted Trump, Biden, Trump.
She voted for first Trump because her church told her you can't vote for Clinton because she's not a Christian, and she's always been apprehensive of Women in leadership.
She voted Biden because Trump's actions clearly showed he wasn't Christian.
She would have voted for Biden again. She struggled whether Trump or Harris were lesser evil. Too many Harris ads taking about reproductive rights she just couldn't force herself to vote Harris.
Your mom sounds like a weak person, unable to think for herself, and who betrayed her own gender. Honestly, I'd be too embarrassed to comment on her, if she was my mom.......
I'm sure with furrowed brow they would respond in a caveman like tone "Biden man, Harris girl. Girl bad, man goooood."
the last three presidential elections seem to form a strong message: america is a nation of misogyny. hillary? unelectable. joe? record turnout. kamala? unelectable. their politics? nearly identical.
obviously there's more factors. personally i voted for Elizabeth Warren in 2020 and thought joe biden was the very worst candidate in the 2020 primaries. but the thing to understand about republican voters is that their engagement is that of a sports team (and there are democratic sports team voters). they will show up everytime to vote for their guy even if they hate him. the democrats have to counter this as an entire coalition. the candidates need to inspire turnout, and the voters have to turnout, otherwise the ratchet effect will continue forever