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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

article in large part about our friends

https://bayareacurrent.com/meet-the-new-right-wing-tech-intelligentsia/

some of the people involved with kernel are pretty unhappy about this and claim the piece is in bad faith/factually wrong (see the replies to https://bsky.app/profile/kellypendergrast.bsky.social/post/3ma55xfq7d22y )

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Reminder Tivy was the guy behind Phalanx (back in his polyamory microblogging days)~

[–] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Made all the funnier by the fact that probably my favorite Hacker News thread of all time is on Tivy's article about how he abandoned his job to "court" his wife:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29830743

If even the orange site is willing to roast you this hard, I guess your only response has to be pulling up stakes to go live in a neofascist social bubble instead.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 3 points 4 days ago

He worked in fuel cells (hence the palladium name) and I think he got a bunch of stock option shit. Also “court” lol.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

Shit like Palladium is going to be absolutely hilarious to dig up in the back of a used bookstore 20 years from now

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That link can't be viewed without a bluesky account, btw.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

skill issue

it's the actual cite, you've been led to the water, come the fuck on it's not even a paywall

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I didn't make the comment because I struggled bypassing it, but because calling out this UI dark pattern bullshit feels topical here and I wasn't sure if OP was aware it was in place.

Judging from votes, other people found the skyview link novel/useful, so it was constructive!

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks.

I love the fact that this "decentralized billionaire-proof open network" needs a nitter clone.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

i'll cut the coiners some slack on this one because requiring a login to view is an account level privacy option. i don't know what the option is supposed to accomplish. but that's what it is

[–] corbin@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It might help to know that Paul Frazee, one of the BlueSky developers, doesn't understand capability theory or how hackers approach a computer. They believe that anything hidden by the porcelain/high-level UI is hidden for good. This was a problem on their Beaker project, too; they thought that a page was deleted if it didn't show up in the browser. They fundamentally aren't prepared for the fact that their AT protocol doesn't have a way to destroy or hide data and is embedded into a network that treats censorship as reparable damage.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago

maybe it's a good thing that it's so fucking hard/expensive to selfhost bsky

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago

you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"

if bsky is supposed to be federated, then it does nothing, but as it is today with 99%+ of users on main instance, it only works as a recruitment tool for bsky