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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by Munrock@lemmygrad.ml to c/games@hexbear.net

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Sooo many videos on YouTube with the title "how is this game free?!"

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, exactly this. C-M-C and M-C-M' (which is what the comic says) are not just the same thing from a different perspective. Also, not every economy where commodity production exists is the same. C-M-C and M-C-M obviously predate capitalism by a long time.

Even though M-C-M implies equivalent labor value exchange, dealing with this relation by nature will create the ground for M-C-M' to arise since there are those in that value chain who don't experience C-M-C primarily, and they will want to extract value from M-C-M.

Yes, hence Marx saying about M-C-M "Its driving and motivating force, its determining purpose, is therefore exchange-value". How to avoid or mitigate this during the socialist transition is obviously one of the biggest debates of the communist movement.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago

And what the comic is saying is that the two governments structure their economies around catering for a different one of those two appraoches. You can have M-C-M' and C-M-C occur in the same economy, but the degree to which they each occur is vastly influenced by government and regulation.