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I mean, I don't even care if they do because the US is the king of messing with other countries politics, I was just wondering what peoples actual serious opinions here are on the whole Russiagate thing outside of (rightfully) mocking liberals obsession with it.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Everything liberals have accused Russia of doing since like 2016, the Zionist Entity has been doing very openly for decades. Yeah Russia probably has intelligence divisions with spies in the US. There are probably propaganda streams that attempt to influence the American public. However every country on earth with the means does this. Everyone has spies in America.

But the Zionist Entity has AIPAC and every year politicians from both parties go on a stage and swear fealty to Zionism. It's so open and brazen and no spycraft conspiracies are needed. Zionists do their dirty shit openly, and even when they try to do secret stuff like with Ben-Ami Kadish or Jonathan Pollard, it doesn't matter. The American empire remains their steadfast ally despite it all.

Like there was an incident in 2019 where the FBI found a bunch of telecommunications interception devices (stingrays) scattered around Washington DC, then told the state department that from forensic analysis it was probably Israel that planted them. The Zionists then blatantly lied referencing some agreement in the 60s that America and Israel wouldn't spy on one another. And then nothing happened and the most zionist president who ever lived got elected in 2020.