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Yes, it's important to understand that America does not actually have any homegrown problem with right wing extremism, and certainly doesn't need to consider if any structural or societal issues have caused these problems. The issue is foreigners; foreigners who have been allowed too much influence and control. The solution to America's issues is to stop being so lenient with foreigners.
Exactly; the fact that Russia has Nazis means that it is by definition impossible for Ukraine to have a Nazi problem. They are diametrically opposed.
This is too fucking stupid to argue with.
It sure is
Found one account operating from third world ruzzia.
Indeed, everyone we disagree with is secretly a foreigner
Well, statistically speaking, though...
Yeah? Let's see those statistics
Was just going for some pedantic levity. I just mean that there're significantly more people in the world who live outside of any given country than in.
If you hypothetically had a 50/50 agree/disagree ratio with the average person, the majority of people you'd disagree with would be foreign to you.
But that's just because the majority of people in general are foreign to you, though. Not because of any specific ideology. So you'd also probably agree with more foreigners than anyone else, too.
I guess maybe my undoing hinges on the word "secretly"?
I could reply to this using the exact same reasoning, but with arguments switched.
“Yes, it’s important to understand that Russia does not actually have any homegrown problem with nazis, and certainly needs our support in the war. The issue is Ukraine; Ukraine which has been given too much support. The best thing to do for leftists worldwide is supporting Russia in their war against nazis.”
“Exactly; the fact that the US have a homegrown problem with right wing extremism means that it is by definition impossible for other countries to manipulate it, exacerbate it, or even be its primary cause. They are diametrically opposed.”
Do you disagree with the arguments that:
-There’s definitely more nazis in Russia than in Ukraine, therefore supporting Russia because Ukraine has a “nazi problem” makes no sense
and
-Foreign countries could’ve caught wind of the right wing extremism starting to rise in the US and therefore decided to exploit it through foreign actors, propping it into mainstream political discourse, making both things true?
Because that’s what was being argued.