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Probably not a serious answer, but as a tangent, iirc St. Thomas Aquinas believed that angels were not actual beings or messengers and didn't posses a soul. They are direct extensions of god, as we would have arms and legs as extensions or apendages, angels are the "arms and legs" of god.
Edit: because some people have shown interest, the idea that angels at some point rebelled against god and Lucifer became their leader is from a 1667 poem called Paradise Lost by John Milton.
Its an amazing work of fiction that ties in to some already existing mythos at the time (like the hierarchy of angels, from cherubs to seraphim) but it has nothing to do with what's in religious texts, either Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
No, that’s not true, I’m pretty sure the Quran does state that Lucifer rebelled against God (justifying it by making him a djinn instead of an angel), showing that the idea was already floating around at least Arabia around his time.
So Gabriel was god’s dick?
god's dick
That makes the whole story of Lucifer being the rebellious angel moot. Tools do not rebel.
They don't. The Lucifer rebellion against god is from Paradise Lost by John Milton (1667) and is not mythology or in any texts. Pure fiction, pretty amazing at that, but definitely doesn't have the same origin as the angels.
How can they rebell then?
You can't rebel unless it's in god's plan. Ergo, he's putting on a little puppet play and playing both sides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_hand_syndrome
The rebellion is from paradise lost, not in any religious text I thought? I'm no expert.
Restless leg syndrome
Alien hand syndrome?