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[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think NATO was created? Would the Russians have stopped in Berlin if they were free to advance further? Of course not. Where other nations measure their success in GDP per capita or in providing social services and job security to their citizens, Russia has from its conception measured success in only one way: territorial expansion. The human cost of this expansion on either side is irrelevant. When Moscow was looking to expand their influence in every direction imaginable, the only course of action for Europe and the US was to band together to have a strong enough opposition to keep the Russians at bay. The past decade has shown that NATO is still relevant and needed by all member states.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

NATO itself is imperialist tho

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand what imperialist means.

NATO is a pact you optionally join.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago

There is no option when multiple superpowers are involved We saw what NATO did in libya and yugoslavia

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm looking forward to hearing the mental gymnastics behind this one

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Search up what they were doing in libya and how many innocent people did they kill

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

You mean the 2011 no-fly zone and enforcement of the UN security council resolution? That does not fit in any way with the term imperialism. Do you even know what imperialism means?