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i think that the future generation who's raised by ai slop made by clankers would end up supporting a future fascist regime in the us.

how do you think this can be solved?

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[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
  1. is there any reason why you said "virtue signaling"?

  2. also, i support the actions of civil rights leaders during the 1950s and 1960s and such.

  3. if the us becomes a socialist/communist country during the great depression (after a period of socialism/communism becoming mainstream in the us), there'd be less poverty and such.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Because you told me what you emotionally support. What you support is irrelevant to an analysis of whether the US is fascist.

  2. And there you go supporting things. I am happy for you. But it adds nothing to our mutual understanding

  3. Poverty alleviation would be a great thing, yes, but it would not make it less fascist if it maintained racial hierarchy, the Indian reservation system, and did not engage in reparations of the harm that the European colonial movement visited upon the continent and its peoples

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

are you a more hardline marxist-leninist? can one still be marxist-leninist while opposing the bureaucratic actions of stalin in the ussr government?

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

I don't think that question has much meaning without context. There's no such thing as a hard line ML. Ask specific questions and you'll get specific answers.

Of course one can be an ML while opposing anything. But you have to oppose it as a process, not as an emotion. What do you specifically oppose? Why do you oppose it? What do you think gave rise to the phenomena to which you are referring? Where is your evidence for your claims? What would make you change your mind? Etc.

There are very few things that MLs just oppose because that's "the line". Marx, for all the complexity in his analysis, gives us a very simple framework:

  1. Human life requires human society
  2. Human society must remain for human life to remain
  3. Human society can be organized in such a way that it will end
  4. Human society can be organized in such a way that it will continue
  5. Determining how to continue human society is a process of theoretical analysis and empirical experimentation

Our job is to assert that we value human life, that we support it. Everything else comes from that. We do not need to support Stalin to be MLs, nor oppose him to be MLs. To be MLs we must engage in the analytical and empirical process of discovering how history has preceded us, how that has produced the present moment, and what we are to do now in our present context to bring about a future state that results in the continuation of human society and avoidance of the foreseeable collapses of that society.