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[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ehh... While I haven't read the books, the GoT universe strikes me as one of those with quite the variety of powers. After all, the White Walkers are their own power, one that supposedly is greater than the flame. The faceless men are also supernatural in ability.

There are quite a large variety of magics also demonstrated. Natural magics like the stone curse, too. Brand's power literally transcends time. etc, etc.

The whole universe is very clearly way, way deeper than the show mostly ever hinted at, especially near the end when the tv show became trash.

[–] stray@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago

You're correct. Book Melisandre had been using chemistry to perform magic tricks, as was the normal practice in a world where magic had ceased to work and was starting to be considered mythological. She's as surprised as anyone when suddenly her spells start having a bit of kick behind them not explainable by anything other than actual magic.

Where the books end, a character is joining an ancient order of mages, and new recruits are sent into a dark room to light a candle made of obsidian. The task is understood to be an exercise in recognizing one's limits. Magic is not real; we cannot do the impossible. But it's heavily implied to the reader that lighting this candle was the bare minimum magical skill required at the time of the order's founding, and that this character will in fact light it.

We don't know where magic comes from, but we do know that it waxes and wanes in sort of meta-seasons. Is it related to other celestial bodies maybe? There seems to be a heavy focus on a cyclical nature of time rather than linear, and gods seem so far to be social constructs corresponding to phenomena, ideals, and powerful people.