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This is my repost of my previous post here. My question WASN'T actually clear enough, so I had to add "United States presidential" to the title. That said, I'll start by saying I'd vote for Governor of Kentucky Andy Beshear.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Democratic Primary: Which ever one in the top-two that's more progressive

General: Democratic nominee

I mean that kinda is the only strategy

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

You could register Republican, then vote in the Republican primary for the less evil candidate.

Then in the general election vote for the Democratic nominee.

Although I don't think many people are doing that, so maybe there's a flaw in that strategy

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I simply don’t believe the GOP is possible to save at this point. So I’d never do that.

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

This wouldn't be about saving the GOP. They aren't going to collapse any time soon, and I don't think they are morally saveable either.

It's just about getting two chances at avoiding the greatest possible evil.

Conservatives are bad. But MAGA-progressives are downright evil.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nah bro

Even if a "moderate" candidate wins the republican primary, its still gonna be 10x worse than the average corporate dem

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Yes. But how is that relevant?

Either the Democrats win the general election, then it's irrelevant who the Republican candidate is, or they lose. Then the moderate Republican would be much better than the maga extremist.

I guess there could be some concerns about a moderate Republican swaying more independent voters?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It was also the only strategy last election, but millions of idiots still voted for non-starter 3rd party candidates or didn't vote.

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 5 points 13 hours ago

Voting third party in non-swing states is one of the few ways for people to register their disgust with fake-ass corporate shill Dems.

Voting third party in a swing state is idiotic.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S -4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Actually I have a better voting strategy:

But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to ~~make it c~~lose.

— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I also like to fail at my goals. High five!

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Well clearly we have different goals and I'm happy to fail all of yours 😃

[–] Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

So what is your plan to actually achieve goals? Protest? A coup d'etat? Civil war?

Do you think archiving those goals in a MAGA-autocracy will be easier than in a less evil system?

How many lives is that sort of change worth?