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Slightly less bad but it's still going to achieve the elimination of everything remotely left of center. Think of what power users dominate reddit and how neoliberal they all are. Everyone that ever says anything anti-zionist will be blocked and their left wing takes that are less controversial (to genocide supporters) will then all disappear.
this is more or less exactly how reddit works. i don't know why they don't just go back to reddit.
Something we haven't discussed here is that Reddit (except on niche or local subs) is just on a whole different scale than the Fediverse. The active subreddits have enough users that blocking 10 people from replying to you isn't gonna stop the hundreds of others who still would say the same things in response. Meanwhile on Piefed if I'm a lib and I block 10 leftist accounts then post about how the Tiananmen Square, it's way less likely for someone to come and post the full video.
In fact, it's even worse: if I'm one of the 10 people they blocked and I post the link (since it still appears that I can from the Lemmy side) then another leftist reading the thread from a Lemmy instance will see the reply and won't feel the need to post it themselves, but the Piefed users on the other side won't.
That's not entirely correct as things seem to be right now. It's not a piefed-lemmy divide (yet at least, piefed may start federating blocks, in which case it could be), it's either only the blocking users instance, or all but the blocked user and potentially replied to users instance that can't see the comment.
That might be slightly confusing, so let me give examples:
In all of these your local instance can of course also see the comment.
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They seek the failure of decentralised media. They'll go back after achieving that goal.
i gotta say, i don't see it happening
There's only a handful of projects and they're all directly connected to Lemmy. Killing Lemmy is first step towards killing the idea of a decentralised reddit alternative entirely. Sentiment towards other projects will plummet if the first and largest of them falls over.
It's also not like liberals haven't tried to make an alternative to reddit in the past. Tildes was even made by a reddit admin but it never caught on because it doesn't really have a hook. The hook Lemmy has is fundamentally about wanting to get away from corporate centralised control, which is ideologically leftist whether these liberals like that or not. The projects that the liberals are in charge of will trend the wrong direction, away from all the things that give Lemmy a hook that continually brings in more people. They don't get it. They just want to recreate reddit.
Kill the leftist project and the others will not have a hook and go the same way as other reddit alternatives did historically.
i get the thought, but i just can't see it happening. at least not as an explicitly political project. maybe lemmy will make some sort of unforced error but even then idk. no redditor is going to voluntarily spend their time building a community just to destroy the tankies. and so long as piefed sucks so much i just can't see it happening. maybe the buyeuropean libs will manage to keep the piefed community big enough for it to happen but in its current iteration i just can't imagine it destroying lemmy.
I agree, a lot of the anti-tankie stuff is heavily astroturfed by a few power-users who have made "anti-tankie" their personality, and those users are less popular than the "tankies" they complain non-stop about, so when those guys go to make their own social media, it seems like the rest of lemmy will be happy to not have to hear people freaking out about tankies all the time. In other words, most lemmy users are probably just
yeah you can't make a more enticing platform with insufferable users and bad software
There's a lot of groups that aren't just random individual redditors who have an interest in seeing off something like this. Who's paying for it? Where's the money coming from to do the work? Where's the money coming from for hosting? Piefed only has 12 donators.
Facebook has actively attempted to harm the fediverse already. There are going to be others.
web hosting isn't terribly expensive and a single software developer with a grudge would be enough to make some code and pay for the domain and hosting. especially because it's so badly-developed. idk if the fediverse is big enough yet for social media to do that sort of astroturfing but i guess it probably is. idk i just can't imagine the piefed movement taking down lemmy unless it changes direction completely.
Look up the "Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish" strategy in regards to fediverse.
??? Facebook(meta) literally has their own platform on the fediverse, Threads is owned by Meta. They are absolutely engaged in what's evolving and playing some sort of game, others will be too. These are organisations with more resources than some countries and fewer restrictions, they've got hidden operations on top of their public ones.
no i understand embrace extend extinguish. but the thing about that is you have to have a good product to begin with. not a software that's worse than reddit with a community that's more annoying than reddit. embrace extend extinguish is dependent on the network effect. if piefed gets that i would be very surprised. especially when it's an open-source project so it's a bit harder to make proprietary extensions
I'm not saying that it is EEE, I'm saying that its sole purpose for existing is to harm the existing project. It doesn't exist because someone believes in the mission of decentralised media, it exists because someone doesn't like that communists have a project that is successful and growing. Its purpose is to harm that project, and upon its purpose being completed it will not have a purpose anymore, at that time it will cease to continue. Whether that is funded by higher powers or not is not particularly important, but acknowledging it is possible as there are certainly interests that might want that.
That sounds like a good feature?
If I blocked someone I dont want them commenting on everything I post and harassing me, especially if I can’t event see it but everyone else. Is that how Lemmy works?
No, Lemmy allows someone you've blocked to reply to you, and everyone else can see it.
Also, if it was just local, it wouldn't be as big of a problem, then the ui can inform people that they can't reply and they can then figure out what to do. The problem is that federated users can create comments that they dont realize will never show up.
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My least favourite lemmy feature. I don't like blocking people at all, because I'm worried about people saying things behind my back that I can't see. It seems like it would only give control to the blocked person, not the blocker.
Exactly, it opens you up to slander. They could be saying all sorts of nasty things about you to other people and you can't even defend yourself from the allegations, and no one reading it will know you had them blocked.
Oh, that's not good. I like the PieFed method more here.
It sounds like piefed effectively shadowbans responders, though. Preventing people from replying to users who blocked them is the best implementation, but letting people think they've replied and silently hiding the replies, without even a message letting you know you've been blocked, is possibly the worst.
I could be wrong about it because this is all incredibly confusing to me.