Oh you're good. I'm aware of my lack of knowledge on VZ so I was teeing up for someone(s) to come help out because the little research I did before posting didn't give me the answers I was looking for.

And to be clear I completely agree that nationalizing the oil industry in any capacity is a socialist policy, I just wasn't sure that was enough to call a country "socialist", though also I completely agree that by and large trying to nail down entire complex countries and systems to 1 of 2 boxes is probably a waste of effort in and of itself.

For me in general I feel like it comes down to a matter of degree. I know that the Chinese government has the majority stake in just about any relevant industry in the country , and their political reforms seem to work well and get people involved and keep power in the hands of the socialists, so I feel like it's safe to say they are socialist by and large.

I was not aware until someone replied, of the neighborhood / community councils and other projects that were being setup which I feel like definitely bolsters the argument that they are socialist.