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[–] BilduEnjoyer@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago (6 children)

If AI weren’t a part of the capitalist slop machine it could be used for indie artists to embark on bigger, more elaborate, indie projects.

For example, an artist using AI to automatically color hundreds of frames of animation at once, or to help with inking/tweening/color correction etc. The tedious shit that isn’t very fun.

But no, AI is replacing the fun stuff. The writing, the composition, the character designs. I think in the long term indie projects will continue to take off as corporate continues to morph into something homogenous and dull. It’s already happening.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Speaking as a creative; I highly doubt that the current inception of llms would make anything easier for artists. Because the current inception of llms work in a way that completely destroys the balance of artistic community by flattening everyone into "a model to be used" or a "lora to be used." It turns the work and time of millions of people into an anonymous masturbatory vending machine.

When Llm's came out i tried using them in my work and i came to the conclusion that as part of an artistic community and someone who respects the other workers in it; It is insidious to instrumentalize their work for my gains and in the end; If the output looks like an artist that i respect and admire; What does that make of me? I am effectively severing myself from the rest of the community by abusing the work of others. I am also suppressing my own voice; Showing no confidence in my own voice by taking the work of others.

I feel in a non capitalist system Llms for art would not be necessary because your voice would be valued without putting a price tag on your individual skill. When you decouple art from it's status as a product, it becomes all about personality and community. Art becomes a community effort, the sum of the people's subjectivity.

LLm's exist because you need to extract value from every worker while giving them little to no value back. Capitalism is inherently predatory and voracious. Hence there is no respect for others or their communities. Only arriving as a colonizer to take everything that is human, making it cold and lifeless and putting a price tag on it.

The technology could have interesting uses in capitalist creative industries. Automatic retopology for 3D modelers ; 3d animation simplification by mixing motion capture training with hand animation; The afore mentioned automatic coloring of animation frames, and 2d/3d hybrid pipelines using normal map generators. The problem is: Capitalist systems will always want it all, not just some of it. They will trample on anyone and devour all resources and give nothing back. Hence it will always be an abusive tech for capitalist lords. And it will always ran out of human capital, destroy it and find it self in a barren wasteland of it's own making. Capitalism is a destructor of ecological balance both in the natural world and subjective, (ideological) landscape.

In a communist system, it won't matter how much time it takes to finish a creative product, because their value is inherently social, not monetary. You don't need to ultra optimize creative work in a post scarcity society. You can even call as many people as you need to collaborate. In fact in a post scarcity society, creativity would be a valuable glue for social cohesion. So why use an llm trained on human capital when you have all that humanity eager to help?

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Someone said early on "It would be great if AI was used for creative people to skip tedious stuff. Instead, it's used for tedious people to skip creative stuff."

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

Forgive me father for I have libbed

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

tweening

That shit was a godsend when animation started being made digitally and is something you'd think would be priority #1 with AI sloppers. But of course, they'd have to understand how things actually work to make something useful.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For example, an artist using AI to automatically color hundreds of frames of animation at once, or to help with inking/tweening/color correction etc. The tedious shit that isn’t very fun.

The problem is anyone who does do something like that gets crucified by people who think "local program that's only as intensive as a modern game, running on consumer hardware" is the same thing as "giant datacenter eating multiple cities' worth of power to run a chatbot that's always wrong". I've seen people malding over just the thought of a modder using text to speech that's slightly less bad than traditional text to speech, like a hobbyist making a free piece of art using something that now also runs locally to fill in gaps in their skillset is the same as a corporation cutting down on voice acting.

Like the water's been so muddied that people who are rightfully disgusted at all this obscene waste to make shitty chatbots that are awful and are being pushed by the literal worst people alive to replace workers (despite not actually being able to) and make everything worse, and annoyed by people spamming low effort slop that's the equivalent of talking about a weird dream they had mixed with that shitty 3d CGI slop inexpertly made in poser or daz3d and presented as poorly framed single images that flooded everything when those were new and that's still around in annoying quantities, and extend that to anything that's been so much as touched in any way by any sort of AI-related system.

Random aside, but I just realized the other day how generative AI has ruined the whole vibe of any genre where part of the conceit is just going for vibes over internally consistent logic, like classic sci-fi and fantasy art or anything trying to evoke dreamlike nonsense vibes, because now anything that doesn't line up or make sense or is just there to evoke a certain vibe becomes a smoking gun that an entire piece is empty nonsense.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Trying to create a category of morally correct circumstances for AI in media creation certainly doesn't keep the water clear.

[–] DasRav@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Incorrect. If it wasn't part of the corpo slop machine, the corpo slop machine would 'remember' about copyright and sue AI indies into oblivion to kill it or take it over.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

I don't see how stuff like that could ever give a leg up to independent productions. It's making media production more capital intensive.