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i used to mock my woke older sister when i was young for espousing ml perspectives because i assumed it was just angsty teenage edgelord know-it-all behavior and it prevented me to learning about leftism until i was middle aged.
i've learned that others characterize mls as you've done; so it's clear that it's a social phenomenon; and i wonder if this sort of characterization is leveraged somehow to social engineer americans away from socialism, since the epstein files suggest global scale mass social engineering.
I can't assess if I think this way because of American indoctrination right now, but y'all just seem so mean and angry.
Everything I see come out of ML instances here has the same sneering, tribal in-group-good-out-group-bad attitude that I see not only MAGA people post, but also what I've seen queer people post that drive "normies" away and push them into conservative rabbit holes.
I understand y'all are frustrated with liberals and liberalism and the capital-W West. I agree that the injustices of these systems is sickening. But these memes are being broadcast outside any echo chamber, and they attack individuals personally, who also use very different terminology.
Lemmy's MLs have terrible optics and, frankly, I think that's hurting your cause a lot more than MLs seem to care. You'll never get their support and they'll resist you and your cause.
It's fascinating that you chose these words because Republican strategists focused on "nice" and "friendly" aesthetics to make Trump win and I'm wondering if this vindicates their strategy. (You can see this in Trump's penchant for labeling his enemies as "angry" or "nasty" rather than using any sort of substantive arguments like he used in the past before running for president).
And frustrated is putting it very lightly. The likes of the state department and the icc have been confirming Marxist talking points for decades but liberals dismiss it as nothing more than unsubstantive conspiracy theory nonetheless; literally making things worse while patting themselves on the back for being the "adults in the room" as a result.
The Epstein illuminati reveled in their ability to control both maga and "lesser evil" liberals and they're successfully getting the entire world to blame Russia for a mossad kompromat operation despite the American government admitting that this has been happening .... in writing .... Again.
I don't... this is so far removed from my experiences that I'm confused. I see that Trump supporters like that Trump is an aggressive, foul-mouthed bully. His supporters found it appealing that he isn't a run-of-the-mill placating, conciliatory politician that Washington tends to produce; he wields whatever leverage he has like a barbed-wire baseball bat and calls it negotiating. Anyway.
The rest of your post I think I agree with.
the aesthetics were a ploy targeting the same moderates that kamala harris tried to get to vote for her; it was never intended for his followers.
This is a memey Internet forum not a ML party formation. Genuinely what do you expect?
Also the stuff about the queer posting is just wierd. How many "normies" are wandering onto lemmy queer spaces in the first place? And if seeing some wierd memes is enough to "push" someone into conservatism then they were already a conservative.
This is some pretty severe pot calling the kettle black coming from a .world liberal
See? This is precisely what I'm talking about
You were talking about people pointing out blatant hypocrisy?
Not, people being antagonistic. But I see why you see hypocrisy.