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don't do that. calling it anything other than a cult only provides them with more fuel to burn in their "us vs them" hate machine.
yes, they are deranged. yes, they are psychotic. yes, they are a danger to the general population. no, it's not a syndrome. it's a lack of education that empowers domestic terrorists to manipulate and brainwash people susceptible to suggestion, IE a "cult".
They don't see themselves as a cult. You calling them a cult just allows them to ignore everything else you have to say. You have to meet them with their own doublespeak if you want to break the cultish brainwashing, and force them to question themselves.
Antagonistic conversion will only entrench their beliefs. The way you have to deradicalize them is to earnestly question things until they can no longer deny the hypocrisy and doublethink/ doublespeak.
Remember who you were when you were 2 years old, and "why" was the greatest question in the world, but force them to provide receipts. Make them explain the joke that you "innocently" don't understand. Make them say the quiet parts out loud, because you "don't understand." Either they will deradicalize themselves, or they will stop talking to you permanently.
"Why is that funny?," and "You aren't being the neighbor that Fred Rogers knew you could be," are effectively a social chemical (gas) weapon and a social nuclear weapon, respectively, when deployed correctly in the US. They must be deployed with an innocent and loving tone.
Follow this up with, "No. I need to understand, you're supposed to teach me to be a good person. Explain this please." Or something similar, and you can literally watch people deprogramming themselves.
"The Dragon is a bad thing! The Dragon ate my grandma!" Resonates with everyone, even those that haven't heard it yet.
Eh, no.
There is only one thing that gives any chance - compassion. And that's got a snowball's chances in surviving hell. But there is nothing else but compassion that'll give you any chance at all.
people in cults never do.
people in cults usually do.
no I don't. breaking programming requires one of two things. force or logic. logic won't work with this cult, and force is unscalable without collaterall damage.
correct, which is why you shouldn't ever try to "double speak" them.
as I said, logic won't work with this cult.
I'm not even going to finish reading your comment because you clearly have a lack of experience or understanding of how programming and cults work. this is especially true since many of the members of this cult have had their programming fortified over the last 20 years. put simply, they are entrenched and the only thing that may work is a shock to their system. even that though, is unlikely to work.
How many have you successfully reached? I've been deprogramming them for decades. I know of at least 6 people that I successfully deradicalized this way in the last 2 decades, and as many as 18 over the last 4.
For one person that isn't exactly nothing. These people all exist in The Bible Belt, aka Trump Country, and I have lived in California for the last decade.
Your technique is irrelevant. That you had the compassion to stick with it is what matters.
I'm not trying to be an ass. Really. But to think that you have a universal technique to deprogram anyone is dangerously naive.
Nah, you're probably correct on your assessment about having the stubbornness needed. I was just mainly arguing that logic won't work with people that didn't logic themselves into their beliefs on the first place.
As I thought. Your methods have resulted in 0 positive results.
My methods have resulted in the better part of 2 dozen positive results. Not a great percentage, but better than 0. Emotions work much better than logic with these people, despite my objections to that.
The definition of insanity is trying the same failed methods over and over expecting different results.
I wonder if we can scale those methods up with AI, perhaps?