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Mass migration of US scientists to Europe

"According to data from the European Research Council (ERC), the European Union’s premier funding agency for basic research, applications from the United States for its starting, consolidator and advanced grants to individual researchers — worth up to €2.5 million apiece over five years — rose by 120% in its most recent round of calls, compared with an overall rise in applications of 17% (see ‘Choosing Europe’)."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00362-w
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[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 58 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I thought i heard about fascism brain-drain happening in the 1930s and early 1940s, although obviously that time they were LEAVING Europe to come to the United States...

... I wonder how much of America's delusions of "excellence" can be traced directly to so many of the smart people fleeing Hitler.

Perhaps the 21st century will take a shape that shall reflect how all the education, skill, and expertise fled Trump.

It is at least thematically appropriate that he's objectively such a moron that he literally repels intellect.

[–] reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I'm American in Europe. I don't share the below opinions of Europe, just informing what I've seen

A lot of the American exceptionism is because we are only taught WW1/2 and Soviet occupation after. We are taught that Americans basically won WW2, which I've heard is inaccurate, but haven't cared to research. We are taught that the founding fathers wanted isolation from European wars. We are effectively taught that Europe is/has been endlessly in war and conflict.

Americans think Europeans are effectively Soviet occupied or extremely corrupt on the east. Western Europe is viewed as a vacation spot, and nothing more. If you put yourself in this mindset, you can see why Americans (on both sides) view NATO as a financial drain.

The reality is that most Americans (both sides) really just don't think or care about Europe at all, except for holiday. Europe is basically nice food and an archeology site to most Americans

[–] mapto@masto.bg 20 points 21 hours ago

@Draegur @science just don't forget all the blinded-by-greed dumb-as-fuck billionaires behind him

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It also happened after the war.

The us gov secretly brought over a couple thousand.

Many were known SS/Nazi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago

US had to continue the fight against communists/marxists. That's what it was all about really, and the US has been carrying the Anti-leftist Nazi torch ever since.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

only useful for scientists or MDs, anyone less(BS or MS) than that likely doesnt have a career in the field.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago

BS in engineering here

I left the US for the EU in 2024 and a lot of people in my field have done the same. Not uncommon in engineering even without a masters degree

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Not in NL. If you have any high demand skill, you can be eligible for the 30% ruling.