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Recently, when covering an investment dispute between a border-area kibbutz in Israel and a Chinese investment fund, some media outlets claimed that “China prohibits investment in Israel.” The Embassy of China in Israel has issued a clarification on this matter through Channel 12.

After the outbreak of the Gaza conflict on October 7, 2023, China adjusted the travel risk level for areas within Israel in line with international practices. As the situation has eased, areas classified as extremely high risk (red) have been significantly reduced and are now limited to small areas around the north border and along the Gaza Stripe border.

Strictly limiting personnel movements and economic activities in extremely high-risk areas is an international practice. Restrictions on economic activities in small, extremely high-risk areas should not be confused with the normal economic and trade exchanges between China and most areas in Israel.

China encourages Israeli friends to engage with us in various forms of economic and trade cooperation, and hopes that all sectors will actively safeguard China-Israel relations and play an active role in advancing bilateral friendship and practical cooperation.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i keep making this point, but abandoning trade with entity would have been much cheaper for china re:etim/xinjiang, i don't think 20 billion in trade (so 2-3 billion in profit yearly) is worth whatever security theater they are doing in xinjiang. meanwhile saying to your local population look guys, we did it, stop being recruited by alq.

that aside entity is helping taiwan anyway, so business interests they are achieving are very transitory for the state itself

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This makes sense from a purely profit based view but as far as I can tell the technology transfer is the far more important reason they are keeping ties as opposed to solely profit.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the transfer of mysterious medical devices? they got that roughly covered, would be nice kick for the local producers, if anything

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I won't pretend to know exactly what the deal is, because I don't. However the Zionist entity has been made into a major tech hub by the Europeans and Americans. I believe it is highly likely China is recieving something more than meager profit to make dealing with them worth the hassle. Tech transfer is what makes the most sense in my mind. However if anyone has any particular sources or analysis I'm definitely open to hearing it.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I haven't kept up with the details but I remember 5-7 years ago Israel was trading weapons tech to China that the US was withholding

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was thinking as much. If you had any sources on that it would be great. Tech transfer through the imperialists attack dog that's looking out for itself first, especially tech that the rest of the imperialists are attempting to withhold makes a lot of sense in the context as I understand it and helps contextualise a lot of the less palatable realpolitik.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://archive.is/Rl0T3

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005-07/us-israel-seek-cut-deal-china-arms-sales

https://www.cfr.org/articles/us-china-israel-technology-triangle

From the third article I linked:

Israel began selling military technology such as missiles, radars, and navigation systems to China in the 1980s, even before Beijing recognized Israel, and technology trade quietly intensified in the 1990s. At the same time, there were a string of allegations that Israel transferred sensitive military technology to China. Concerned about China’s potential use of advanced airborne early-warning (AEW) radar systems, the United States dissuaded Israel from lucrative arms deals in 2000 and 2005, souring Chinese-Israeli security trade relations. No further sales of military technology between China and Israel have been reported since.

Israel’s willingness to walk away from arms deals with the Chinese at the United States’ request is unsurprising given the countries’ strong military and political relationship. The United States and Israel, a recipient of over $3 billion in U.S. military aid, often co-develop weapons and coordinate their sales to ensure that sensitive technology doesn’t fall into enemy hands. Israeli officials have been especially vocal about the risks posed by military technology trade with China, noting that

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Israel began selling military technology such as missiles, radars, and navigation systems to China in the 1980s

The Sino-Soviet split and its consequences I think are the likely reason the US didn't quash this day one. They got distracted with all the looting in the 90s and reveling in the end of history and their victory they didn't notice what was happening then but sobered up by the 2000s.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

they are doing in xinjiang. meanwhile saying to your local population look guys, we did it, stop being recruited by alq.

What makes you think the recruitment/radicalization pitch from the CIA puppet jihadists in Xinjiang was based around China doing trade with "israel" or that it rested on that and would fall on that alone?

Usually the radicalization pitch is something along the lines of "this is TRUE Islam, you are living under the rule of heretics, atheists, etc, you must establish strict Islamic law or you are all living in sin not according to the will of the one true god" and of course some stuff about piety, sincere adherence, how going further and demanding these things makes you a strong Muslim and so on. Sure they might toss in some concerns about the zionist entity on the side as slander but they're not really basing it off any strong anti-colonialist sentiment nor trying to nurture these people around that because then they might slip out of China, pick up guns and attack the zionist entity when what they want them hating and attacking is China and what they want them doing is destabilizing it and/or best case scenario establishing an extremist break-away caliphate on its borders.