A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

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Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, the good old "You are a Nazi for following rules"-thing. Because everyone who follows rules does so indly, except for oneself.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

One may well ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”

Martin Luther King Jr. in Birmingham Jail 1963

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How would you categorize the community rules "Be nice to each other", "Don't insult each other" and "Don't call for violence"? Just or unjust, dair or unfair, sensible or dumb, expedient or not?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

How would you categorize the feddit.org admin using a snark comm to get people to send DM harrassment to users who upvoted the feddit.org defederation thread?

is that 'being nice'?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

I followed your link. It shows a comment you made, yet with another link to a comment by Emopunker@feddit.org. And you claim that they harass people. The comment by Emopunker shows a screenshot where three usernames are listed that share similarities. Emopunker says that they have the suspicion that the shown users are the same person with alt accounts.

In conclusion: I wonder whether you forgot to attach some context, because based on this alone I don't see anything that support your claims.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Why the whataboutism? Please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

you started the whataboutism with 'what about the community rules"

please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Wrong. I criticised the db0-governance post for delivering supposed evidence for feddit.org-admins' supposed zionism that actually only were evidence for db0-users behaving like assholes.

And since you can only deflect and not actually argue, this discussion is over. In case you wonder why I won't answer furher comments by you, I can't see them anymore since I place you on my blocklist. People like you are the reason I'm really considering placing lemmy.ml as an instance on that list. Well done.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Bye, your contributions to the conversation won't be missed

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oooh, they downvoted you with both of their accounts.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's just called "being nice", tankie.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Go back to reddit

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I want to clarify that I was being extremely sarcastic in that comment. I was mocking the anti-"tankie" user for saying "follow the rules and be nice" but doing "downvote people with your alt account".

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Ah, my bad

[–] nat1@ttrpg.network 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People like them have nothing to offer but deflection and whataboutisms. Blocking them allows the propaganda to spread and influence others uncontested. Best method is to downvote their posts but don't engage with them, they feed off of the attention they get.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 hours ago

Na, I don't have a lot of spoons for this anymore. I don't want to read that, because I'm a little impulsive sometimes and have a hard time not to engage, and I need the energy for people I may actually convince. Not just in political questions, just generally. There are more important things than infighting on the internet.