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[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Even if you're talking about chicken eggs specifically it's still the egg first. The first chicken egg would have been laid by a proto chicken

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

proto chicken

Bro chickens are already loaded with protein, what are you doing?

[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Ye but if you boost the protein you can sell it as a health food!

[–] Klear@quokk.au 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's preferable to Zergchicken, trust me.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I wasn't scared before this, so I'm going to do exactly that

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think It's that clear, are eggs named by what created them, or what they contain? I could certainly see an argument that the first chicken hatched from a proto-chicken egg

[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The DNA mutation doesn't happen when the chicken hatches, it happens when the egg is made. So the egg already has the changes that turn it into a chicken egg.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

So? This is irrelevant. The question is whether an egg should be "named" after what laid it (ie. A proto chicken egg, which contains a chicken) or if it should be named after what it contains (a chicken egg, laid by a proto chicken).

I see no reason why the default assumption is that it should be named after what it contains. What if the egg was not fertilised and just contains yolk? Should it then be called a yolk egg?

I always love to bring up that this boils down to an argument about definitions, given the assumption we're talking about chicken eggs.

[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, but does it matter what it's called? If it contains a modern chicken, and it's an egg, whether it's a chicken egg, or a proto chicken egg is debatable. But the egg definitely came first

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not if we are specifically asking about whether the chicken or the chicken egg came first (which is what the original comment in this chain implied), because if proto-chickens lay proto-chicken eggs and a chicken was hatched out of one, then the chicken came before the chicken egg

[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sure but that's changing the question, the original question is "which came first, the chicken or the egg" not "the chicken or the chicken egg" so the answer to the question, as posed, is definitely: the egg

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

??? You yourself said "even if we are talking about chicken eggs, it is still the egg first" and I was making a point against that.

[–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But is it a chicken egg because it hatches into a chicken or because it is laid by a chicken?

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because it hatches into a chicken, you're thinking of a chicken's egg

[–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, so is an unfertilized egg referred to as a chicken's egg, and never a chicken egg?

[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

it contains the DNA of a chicken, if not a viable chicken embryo

"chicken's egg" is the owner of the egg the chicken inside it, or the one who laid it?
Likewise it's not clear that "chicken egg" refers to the creator of the egg or the inhabitant of it.

Pretending for the sake of semantic argument that any of these scenarios were possible:
If an alligator laid an egg and a chicken came out, was that a chicken egg?
If a chicken laid an egg and an alligator came out, was that a chicken egg?

But now consider, you know what I mean by the following phrase:
"An alligator laid a chicken egg, and an alligator hatched out of it"

[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 1 points 1 day ago

It depends on which egg and which chicken you mean exactly.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like this kinda answer just shows you haven't really thought about the problem in depth.

[–] faerbit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like this kinda answer just shows you haven’t really thought about the problem in depth.

I feel like this kinda answer just shows you haven’t really thought about the problem in depth.