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Of course not. We have only two choices of party:
The Fascist party.
The party that tells you to vote for them lest the Fascists win, but when elected, does nothing to fight the Fascists, reverse their worst atrocities, or prevent them from coming back to power.
Yep. If Democrats ever gain power again, watch them keep ICE pretty much the same way it is now, keep most of Trump's tariffs, not restore SNAP or USAID funding to previous levels, etc, etc, etc.
We just have to be grateful that the lesser evil party didn't add too many new atrocities before they calmly and politely cede power to the fascists again.
Exactly. Could one of the blue MAGA folks let me know when Newsom publicly announces he supports completely dismantling DHS and rolling back the post-9/11 surveillance state? You cannot seriously pretend to want to fight fascism if dismantling the tools of the fascists isn't the first thing you intend to do when in power.
It has some serious Lord of the Rings vibes. The surveillance state and the unconstitutional powers created after 9/11 are this immensely powerful tool created for evil ends. But after the evil is defeated, the nominally good guys choose to not to dismantle the evil tools, but to keep them, telling themselves that they will be used for good. Except they cannot be used for good, as they are fundamentally evil. Meanwhile I'm over here shouting, "cast it into the fire!" But they decide to keep it every time.
Its feeling kinda Weimar Republic over here lately.
Well, to be honest, if the choices between being fucked hard and fucked softly….
Except that attitude pretends that the election in front of you is the only election that will ever happen ever again. It's a short-sighted view that leads us to exactly where we are now. We've had 30 years of Democrats telling everyone "don't boycott this election. This is the most important one in history. If you don't vote for us, democracy is dead forever. I know we're not really going to do anything to change things, but what choice do you have?"
In retrospect, we would have been a lot better off today if in 2016 the entire left wing of the Democratic party just boycotted the election entirely. The fact that Hillary came close to winning is the only reason the neoliberal wing was able to retain any credibility.
I boycotted 2016 and look where we are now. I was young and stupid and should have toed the line. I fucking hate Hillary and everything she represents, but I could not comprehend at the time what Trump represented
I was verbally harassed by a dozen picture perfect Karen's in a highschool gym for standing on the Bernie side during the 2016 caucus. They did not make a guy want to side with them.
Nope. Being told “it’s her turn” was it for me. You had a pro Wall Street, pro War candidate versus Bernie. I think a lot of young people either didn’t vote or switched sides that year.
Telling your future voting pool to shut up and take more austerity and less opportunity so Wall Street can get rich ain’t it DNC
I voted green party that year and it's the vote I regret the least. I went on to vote for Biden and then Harris
Thank you. Considered alternatives many times, but mostly in primaries (because it only helps the worst people win in general).
I don't think most people even understand what a primary is (and that we're having them literally right now). Not happy with elected reps? Go vote, pick your team (90% don't bother). Mail-in if disabled (any state). Check out candidates online. Lots of alts and progressives on primary ballots (on Dem side).
It's like you have absolutely no understanding of how the system actually works, and have chosen to ignore history.
The GOP is never going to cede one inch to the Dems on anything, ever. Obama picked the ACA plan because it was based on a GOP idea and they fought him tooth and nail until the final vote. Then they turned around and demanded the Supreme Court abolish it.
The only way you'll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.
YOU have chosen to ignore history. And how typically in authoritarian takeovers, the first step to fighting the takeover is to abandon the captured opposition party and to start fresh with something new. A popular front is usually needed to defeat them. Authoritarians often let toothless opposition parties continue to operate. And there are always blind fools like yourself who insist that they must be supported, though they are just another tool of the autocrat.
This shows you are not a serious person. If that is your solution, then I can only conclude that you actually support Trump and the Fascist party.
Democrats are not a real opposition party. They are the potemkin opposition, fully captured by the Fascists.
Dems right now are Fascist light not as crazy but fucking useless and on the same payroll as fascist full fat
They had a Dem supermajority during that time. And what did they do with it? They bent over backwards trying to 'reach across the aisle' and giving the GOP every single thing they asked for.
Expect the same thing if they come into power again.
Debunking the Myth: Barack Obama’s Supposed Supermajority
Pot meet kettle. A Dem supermajority means nothing when they do nothing but play controlled opposition.
It's the same picture.