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Ebikes are certainly not motorcycles, you have absolutely no clue what you are saying.
Sure, electric motorcycles driving at car speeds are totally not motorcycles and should drive between much slower and lighter bikes (and ebikes with sane speeds) on bike infrastructure, without a license of course. And if you want them to be regulated you are somehow just hating regular bikes, ebikes and pedelecs. 🤣
But OP is already argueing how every unfit regular biker casually drives above 28mph in urban areas (which Incidently is above the car speed limit where I live...), so sanity has left the room long ago...
I re-read to double check and no, they are not arguing that.
Also, 28 mph is a class 3 electric bicycle, not a motor vehicle, which is an entirely different class of transport. You can argue otherwise but you'll be wrong aka full of shit.
Don't feed the trolls, this person is clearly just here to fuck around and mess with people.
The whole argument OK is making is that such a "class 3 electric bicycle" should be treated like a totally normal bike, because it's somehow, magically not much faster and much heavier than normal bikes as everyone is totally driving at 30mph in regular bike commute...
Which indeed is wrong and a pile of shit argument.
I never said that an 28mph ebike is legally a motorcycle. I argued that a "class 3 electric vehicle" with the weight and speed of a moped (just electric) should be treated as one and not as a bike. And since that statement OP tries to convince me how 28mph is a total normal everyday thing in casual biking even for unfit people. As someone actually commuting by bike daily... that's insane.
You clearly aren't arguing in good faith here and I'm not going to entertain any more of your bullshit. Have a nice day!
Says the guy who is either lying or has never actually commuted by bike... because no, you don't regularly do 30mph, and if you'd do everyone else on an urban bike lane becomes an obstacle.