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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 249 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Who'd have thought that warrant-less mass surveillance that treats every citizen like a potential criminal would eventually hit a tipping point where people began to fight back against it?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What’s funny is someone at flock is likely seeing this as a business opportunity. “With flock+ we will detect downed cameras and send a technician out to replace them instantly. Subscribe now!”

Meanwhile, municipalities are less than thrilled about defending throwing money at something literally no taxpayer wants.

This problem might solve itself really. Let the buisness majors sell the hangman their own nooses.

[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sadly some people do want flock cameras because they think it's worth it to have a better chance of catching criminals even if our personal liberties get taken away. It's the age old freedom vs safety discussion.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is though you could have both, at least to a degree. You could have much more transparent policing, the cameras could do processing purely locally and based on publicly accessible lists with listed reasons for why the given plates are captured, you could make it so that the only ones who do get the data are actually thr police and not thr company selling the cameras, etc.

But that's not in the interest of Flock, or even really the powers that be. The surveillance machine needs feeding, doesn't matter for what cost.

[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes, I agree very much with your statement. I think our lives would be much better if our government was built like an open source project lol

[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe a year or so ago, but now those same people are starting to understand the definition of criminal is flexible.

[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree that the more popular opinion is changing to more freedom, but most of the older millennials and above that I talk to care more about catching criminals because they are more likely to be influenced by Facebook/Nextdoor posts and the mainstream media.

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Along with it incorrectly labeling people as a criminal so cops harass innocent families

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's a feature, not a bug.

The whole point of warrantless mass surveillance where you collect a person's entire life history from birth to death is to be able to go back through that history at any point they become an inconvenient person, whether because they are protesting or are a whistleblower or anything else that endangers the existing power structures. They can and will use your history to fabricate a "reasonable" narrative to turn you into whatever type of criminal they claim you are.

This is exactly why they're pushing the "antifa is an organized terrorist organization" so hard.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And they wonder why people have anxiety disorders

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"You'd have anxiety too if you knew that entire government organizations were dedicated to watching your every move while everyone told you that you were crazy."

[–] null@lemmy.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Crazy? I was crazy once. They put me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

... I died there. ... then the worms came Worms? They make me crazy!

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Cherry@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago

I don’t know but if feels like the Truman show as a horror.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

No, they do not. It is by design, friend.

They don't care, they think you're weak. Show them you're not.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I watched a video last night. Some guy was banned from a casino. All they had was a blurry surveillance camera photo of him.

The AI tagged some other guy as him. Cops came and arrested him. Said the man's ID must be fake, or he used a fake ID last time because there's no way their high-fallutin AI could be wrong! It was >99% certain!

Sounds like a blessing in disguise. Now he can't throw his money away.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, new age Glassholes Flock to their new Meta glasses.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's because they want to be the ones doing the surveilling. There's loads of disgusting threads you can find online about them discussing ways to disable or hide that their devices are recording so they can surreptitiously record others while claiming they're not. Most often filming vulnerable women.