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If the Chinese are behind this, which I think is reasonably likely, they've played it beautifully. Their hands look pretty clean while they manipulate Putin to run all their campaigns through Russia.
And the only real evidence we have is that nearly everything that happens benefits China.
All China had to do to implement their evil scheme was stay out of all this crap and make money. Those bastards.
That's a list of benefits that benefits every other country that isn't the USA. Other than arguably the weakening of NATO, but other than that I would say that's not really the "evidence" you think it is.
I think it's way more likely Trump is just a really shitty president with a highly incompetent cabinet and various other appointees. I mean he's also in bed with Russia but that's just on top of him being really bad at the job.
There is a lot of evidence of Chinese exerting their influence in the USA. They directly and openly supported Trump via TikTok, they frequently run social media psyops and botnets (with zero subtlety, too), and they frequently are the source of cyberattacks on US industries and outlets.
There is also a lot of evidence of their involvement directly with Iran and indirectly with Gaza, Jordan, Egypt, and Israel.
It's not clever or beautiful, it's a bunch of dumb assholes having a proxy war and fucking things up for everyone.
And this is different from the USA peddling and forcing their stuff down everybody's throat because?
I should also point out that none of that "influence" would have been effective if the USA had a working government that did do everything possible to keep its own people poor, sick and uneducated
Oh I see... of course, these are countries where the USA has never had any influence in... Now that I think of it, the USA rarely influences any foreign country
You mean the USA right?
Yes clearly microsoft selling you a software license is equivalent to you compromising millions of routers and using them as a botnet for taking various services down.
You've opened my eyes. The USA is a great Satan. /s
LOL like the USA has not been directly responsible for the destruction of democratically elected governments all over the world and the instigator or catalyst of every war the world have seen since WWII
isn't your tongue dry from all the boot licking?
Which boot are you insinuating I am licking? You're the one defending a Dictator's open hostility when we were in times of peace. You're the one trying to legitimize the Trump admin.
Perhaps you might be projecting? A lot?
The USA's so in today's world it would be the Orange Pedophile's boot
I have not, that is all part of your weak strawman
Ok, you are either confusing the many people you are trying to troll or you have having a stroke
Me saying China is worse is not the same as saying USA is good. Thats the problem with you fucking Tankies, you know your side is shit but you've somehow justified unquestioning faith in a side.
"mY sIdE, yOur SidE"… are you 12 years old?
you mean like when you say the USA must win no matter the cost? yes, that was particularly stupid of you
Thats literally what I said to you
yes, and then go around complaining that "us tankies" (not sure who you are even talking about) "somehow justified unquestioning faith in a side"
You can't even keep what you think is good or bad straight in this conversation
It almost feels like you've forgotten the conversation so far, that I would need to reiterate "USA has to change not collapse because its collapse would create an even worse situation with Russia and China". That's why you come off as a fuckin Tankie, because you want what China wants.
Reviewing your comment history, you've been critical of China in the past, so I guess you're the shortsighted anarchist.
It's clear your reading comprehension is low... I have never said I want anything to do with China and I have repeatedly said I do not buy your premise that should the USA diminish, the world would find itself under China's or Russia's thumb
I have not bought into your low level strawman (that means I do not believe your premise!)... and all attempts from you to keep putting my position as a China loving person are laughable (I guess to anyone but you since it seems to escape you over and over)
If TikTok has shown us anything it's that you don't need to be paid to serve the interests of China.
Again, you thinking I have ever had a tik tok account shows me you are probably 12 years old (or think like one).
Good chat, back to your marbles kid