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It is objectively a lot more male than Reddit or other social media. Reddit has many issues, but lack of women is not one of them.

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but I think you’re conflating two separate things

I feel like they're distinctly separate things, and I thought I'd communicated as much. Oh, well.

...the voting system consistently produces pathological outcomes at scale.

That seems like... a little much. I do agree that upvotes/downvotes indeed gamify the system, but on the whole would say that the end-effect on Reddit results in a big bunch of hoomons acting in typical hoomon ways, which is with deep undercurrents of fickle, ignorant, selfish, feel-good behavior.

The Usenet comparison wasn’t really about scale. It was about the incentive structure.

Yeah, I get that, but I do observe that there are advantages to upvote/downvote that indeed work better on a larger scale. I'm not sure they're really needed on a smaller scale.

I'd say I agree with most of the things you wrote, but remain unconvinced that upvote/downvote is so absolutely toxic as to merit tossing. And of course, I don't think it's going to happen, anyway.

Aggregate behaviour amongst naked apes? Yeah, I would tend to agree. Now what?

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That seems like… a little much. I do agree that upvotes/downvotes indeed gamify the system, but on the whole would say that the end-effect on Reddit results in a big bunch of hoomons acting in typical hoomon ways, which is with deep undercurrents of fickle, ignorant, selfish, feel-good behavior.

I'd argue that's a restatement of my position with better adjectives :)

I’d say I agree with most of the things you wrote, but remain unconvinced that upvote/downvote is so absolutely toxic as to merit tossing. And of course, I don’t think it’s going to happen, anyway.

Aggregate behaviour amongst naked apes? Yeah, I would tend to agree. Now what?

Well, 2 options:

  1. Kill all the apes (or just wait 15 more minutes)

  2. Enjoy Lemmy

I'm trending towards 2 myself

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
  1. Kill all the apes (or just wait 15 more minutes)

We're doing a great job of that ourselves, so mission accomplished?

  1. Enjoy Lemmy

I've been on Reddit for 10yrs, and the Fediverse for the past 2.5yrs, and don't see that changing anytime soon. I'm also skeptical as to the FV ever matching Reddit in terms of variety and bulk of content. The situation just is what it is.

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

We're doing a great job of that ourselves, so mission accomplished?

George Dubya, is that you?

I'm also skeptical as to the FV ever matching Reddit in terms of variety and bulk of content. The situation just is what it is.

...from your fingers to God's eyeballs.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 30 minutes ago

George Dubya, is that you?

He didn't patent that expression, far as I know.