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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

Just limit the power then and let people figure out how to modify it if they want more power. Then it will no longer be able to go as fast.

[–] sysgen@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (17 children)

That's already exactly how it works. The guy is just mad that people can have light electric motor vehicles for little money.

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (13 children)

I mean there are a lot of e-bikes floating around where they’re capped at 20, but there’s a conspicuous little cable that you better not clip, even though people tell you to, because that would disable the speed limiter. It’s not exactly like people are installing custom hardware to overclock their e-bikes

[–] sysgen@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know many of those, like the original surron, but they look like motorcycles and scooters, not bicycles. It's not impossible to make normal ebike-looking components go at that speed, but it will severely limit their lifespan or outright destroy them and you're still going to need an expensive large battery to make it work, so I'd be surprised.

There's the Bafang Ultra motor that can be hacked to do that (using a laptop and a special cable and shady exes from forums) but last I checked it will overheat and destroy itself without physically opening it and tweaking the thermals if you push it to those numbers. It's not easy to make a motor that can go at that speed and put out that much power and still fit in a normal bike frame.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It'd be pretty easy to stop abuse just by limiting dry weight to, say, 30kg.

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Actually now that I think about it that’s probably a pretty good rule. Should probably do the same thing for cars too - a fiat 500 maybe doesn’t need the same licensing and insurance as an F-450 dually hauling a 15,000 lb trailer

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, but how would you legislate “it has to look like a bike”? The UCI already has enough trouble with that

[–] sysgen@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's already legislated to be illegal. The fact that it doesn't look like a bike means it's easy for the law to be enforced - if it doesn't have plates and looks like a bike and certainly if it's going fast that's easy enforcement. All that's missing is the pressure to get useless cops to do their jobs, but that's a solvable problem.

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the pressure to get useless cops to do their jobs, but that's a solvable problem

I generally agree with you but this is uhhhh a big reach

[–] sysgen@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well what more can you do? The law enables enforcement, the enforcement is easy, what else is there to do?

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Kill a few cops in Minecraft

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