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Meanwhile, Babylon 5
The best Star Trek series was Babylon 5, just like how the best Star Trek movie was Galaxy Quest.
I thought the best Star Trek series is The Orvil?
The best modern one, yes.
I couldn’t get into The Orville. Seemed rather presumptuous that you can apply human morals to aliens.
So, I just started Babylon 5 and find it to be quite shit actually. Does it get better? It's really just bad acting and not really engaging. I'm 4 episodes in.
If I was recommending somebody how to watch B5 for the first time, I'd probably just say to skip the first season (as well as the pilot). In my opinion, Commander Sinclair is the weakest link in the acting, and he leaves after the first season. His replacement is a very good actor, in my opinion.
Also, as far as acting goes, Ambassadors Mollari and G'Kar get more screen time as the series progresses, and I think they're both great actors.
The first season does have a lot of background that sets up later seasons, and I've grown to like it, but I've seen the entire series probably over 10 times now, and for the first 3-4 times, I disliked the first season.
The first season had the TV execs meddling to make it be like ST:TNG because they wanted to mimic the popular thing at the time.
The writer got his way starting in season 2 and got to tell his story without the meddling.
Yes it gets better is what I’m saying. 🙂
And then in season 5 it gets way worse. Those middle three are alright, though.
Season 5 is worse than 2-4, but not worse than S1. The problem is that B5 was always on the verge of being canceled, and so I think they finished the main story in Season 4, and so there's as much going on in Season 5, except for tying up loose ends and finishing character arcs. So, they added weak filler shit like the colony of rogue telepaths.
"They may have a point" -Farscape
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What the Harvey?
It is a joke compared to the three mentioned. It's one series with a few shitty tv movies vs three whole franchises with multiple series, movies, books etc. that are all known by everyone, it's very much not the same.
B5 has a bunch of books too and there was B5 Crusade as its spinoff series which got Fireflyed.