What's so shitty? I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Mac for work over 5. I have my terminal under f12 (iterm2/Konsole), I have my ide on one desktop, my calendar, my email and my slack on a another and a browser on another. I barely notice any difference. Honestly I don't mind it at all. In fact if my desktop died and had to replace it, I might get a Mac mini instead.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ignoring prices, Mac is definitely the second best option after Linux for Linux-y development flows. None of my issues were huge, but still enough to ask for a Linux laptop for a replacement.

Very little customization, compared to Linux. I'm talking horizontal tiling window managers like Niri
Docker does not run natively, so you pay a hefty performance penalty with the VM
File name case insensitivity caused a bunch of Git issues

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Fair enough. I do run my docker containers in a real Linux, either homelab or EC2.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have been using Linux since the 10th grade. But for work I'm using a Mac. Because I'm not only engineering, but doing other things related to work, having a Mac is more productive and practical.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

but doing other things related to work, having a Mac is more productive and practical.

I used to do the same, but lately every office thing is browser based, and I find the Linux and Mac experiences are identical.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The web version of Office is so scuffed. I wouldn't wish trying to do any serious Excel work with the web version on my worst enemy.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

That's fair. I also wouldn't wish serious Excel work on my worst enemy. But I understand someone has to do it, or the nightmare realm could escape the cell borders.

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

LibreOffice can do everything Excel can except for BI, so...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

I see very little difference, but I am still more used to pacman compared to brew. It's nice not having to care about hardware, although I haven't had problems with Linux for the last decade, at least (using desktops and old laptops, I'm sure the new fancy ARM ones are a handful).

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Also use Mac for work and personal. But I spend most of my time in neovim and the browser, so tbh I don’t really care what I use. I just like that I can answer texts from my Mac via iMessage. I haven’t tried them, but I think there are some i3 style window managers for macOS. That’s the next thing I would explore if I wanted a more Linux like experience.

I started doing my Xcode builds in CI, so I guess I’m not really tied to Mac anymore. In its current state, I’m more attached to the hardware than the software.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

There's an app called "rectangle", I think it's even open source, that allows you to tile windows in macos, I've been using it since day 1. Not exactly i3, but it does most of what I want so it doesn't get in the way.

And to be honest on my desktop I've been using KDE for years, does enough tiling for my needs (usually just halves/quarters).

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Codemagic? I've made some pokes at using that for iOS builds with middling luck.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m using Fastlane, which I’m running via GitHub actions triggered by git tag.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I might give that a try, thanks for the reply. Codemagic is a bit complicated though I did seem to get it to work with a git tag increment as well.

Doing anything in that iOS environment is like pulling teeth it seems.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

That extends beyond just terminal but completely agree that their stock experience is... not great.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Windows has a really good shell too but it's not about terminal. Both macs and windows are pretty awful dev machines.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

WSL has worked fine for me for the past 4 years.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure but why waste your privilege on "fine". If you have the market power as an employee to pick and choose you shouldn't settle on just fine.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I dont mind windows personally(from a usability standpoint, the spyware aspect worries me). And WSL has not caused me any issues in my dev environment.

[–] Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't understand this. I dislike Apple in many ways, but MacOS is an objectively very solid operating system.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I found macOS difficult to use.

For example, while you can have multiple desktops, each application lives on one of them. So collecting a browser and some terminals on a desktop and then having a different desktop with a browser for another purpose doesn't work.

There are a dozen examples of this, but in the end If your workflow doesn't match the Apple way, then you are out of luck on macOS. It's kind of the opposite of KDE. 😆

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

So collecting a browser and some terminals on a desktop and then having a different desktop with a browser for another purpose doesn't work.

Not sure when the last time you used it was, but this works fine. I regularly have 2 desktops for VS Code, 3 with Chrome instances (across multiple monitors), and 2 with Firefox.

The biggest weakness IMO is that the entire OS is designed around touch gestures. If you want to use a mouse, your experience will just be worse. But even the touch stuff is lacking options, so you have to use third party things like BetterTouchTool.