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I was looking at the production numbers for stuff like thaad missiles and tomahawks. They're all in the dozens annually and seemingly have been for ages.

Given the staggering numbers these are used in, and how it seems like the way the usa fights wars now is to launch stupid amounts at people, like multiple years worth in a day. What happens when they can't? How close are they to that, interceptors are low atm but given there are hilarious announcements like: https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/over_1000_tomahawks_1900_aim_120s_500_sm_6s_per_year_us_moves_to_multiply_missile_production-17408.html I assume many offensive rockets are running low.

Is that level of production feasible? I know the usa has a surprising industrial base but a 20x increase in even one armament seems ambitious, do they have the factories mothballed? The skilled workers? The raw materials?

If they don't is there any inkling of what their military people intend to do when they can't realistically threaten to park a fleet off your coast and level your cities?

I'm not a military nerd, just a random person if I'm missing sometimes obvious or said sometimes funny.

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[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I don't mean just this war, in general the usa has been using bombs at rates that it seems are above production for 25 years. The state of foreverwar they've been in seems unsustainable to say the least.

Am I just wildly underestimating the arms manufacturing power?

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck? It's a trillion dollar government program. Is it just so rotten with corruption that you can't keep it stocked? I heard there was just in time production of supplies even there? I guess I just imagined it an oasis in the desert. There are trillion dollar companies, but there's a trillion in liquid money going to a concentrated number of people. If a trillion dollars doesn't buy you forever war then a dollar ain't what it used to be

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is it just so rotten with corruption that you can't keep it stocked?

Yes.

Remember when Jon Stewart went viral for that time he was chewing into some bureaucrat about the military not being able to pass an audit? Seems like the bureaucrat should be the one interested in making sure that money is well spent.

It seems like it would serve bourgeoisie interests to have a good war machine especially if you intend to use it to do violent extraction. Wanting to profit from corruption and also profit from violent extraction seems removed a contradiction that is currently hightening. Has anyone looked into this? Thank you for your attention on this matter

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

in general the usa has been using bombs at rates that it seems are above production for 25 years

That doesn't add up. I think you're confusing JDAMs and hellfires for patriots and THAADs here.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

In Iraq they used 800 tomahawks, that's around 16 years production. a few hundred in Syria/against the houthies etc. A bunch elsewhere.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

No it does, in one of the articles tervell posted on the Ukraine war, they said the botleneck was explosives production. Then someone argued that the lack of artillery production didn't matter because the us uses some acronym bombs that are better(they are not, canon artillery delivers orders of magnitude more volume), without addressing that the botleneck was chemical precursors to explosives, and that acronym bombs are presumably also made of explosives.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Chemical shortages explains why the US hasn't scaled up artillery production. That shortage can be explained by the US's shift to expensive "smart bombs" which are allegedly more efficient with their explosives. You can't conclude from that the US has been under producing smart bombs for 25 years.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago

It's an issue of volume. The explosives, can be made into bombs, artillery, missiles, etc, but the volume of whatever is made is limited. They can't produce enough volume of whatever is the end product. The claim that bombs are better than a trusty cannon, is a way to justify the lack of production. But there is a still a lack of production, due to problems in the chemical industry.