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So I am being brought to one of these No Kings marches on Saturday. Any pointers on talking to libs in a way that they will listen and get curious about Socialism?

A couple orgs will be there including PSL, but from comrades' stories from the last two of these they don't actually bring up Socialism during their speaking slots and talk about imperialism instead. I would like to be more explicit in tying what is happening to Capitalism and especially try to get across that Trump is just a symptom of the problem.

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[–] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anti-Imperialism is Anti-Capitalism with a socialist and internationalist character …. and imperialism is the primary contradiction in the world that every Communist and Socialist/socialist system faces. Anti-imperialism in the imperial core is also a fantastic gateway into socialism, as the class that are waging war on the periphery are also oppressing and exploiting the core. We can point to the injustices of the US military-finance-complex/its proxies and draw a direct line to the US ruling class/Wall St. The people of the world, including the US, will never find liberation without destroying US empire. So I don’t understand why you would think the conversations would be either/or.

The anti-imperialist movement in the imperial core is essential in maintaining the class character of the revolutionary movement, it serves as both a practical function and a litmus test- otherwise it can and will be coopted by opportunism and bourgeois politics. It is a signal to the people of authenticity and honesty in principle and its consistency will ultimately foment trust in true working class organization.

Your other comment that you don’t want to direct the masses of people to your own org tells me that you already understand your org will fail at emboldening the masses of people and that you do not believe the people will embrace your politics. If you want to get out of insular, academic circles and create an organ of power for the working class and oppressed- you should change your analysis and actions.

Your pessimism and short-sighted view that the PSL only leads to more toothless marches also leads me to believe that you 1) don’t understand what the PSL is doing tactically or strategically 2) don’t understand that these demonstrations are actually for the people- and are a method of mass communication that can spread consciousness and when well timed and thoughtful can elevate the agency of the masses of people 3) your politics is divorced from the material reality of US workers

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

that you 1) don’t understand what the PSL is doing tactically or strategically

I honestly don't, and I say this about my org too.

I'm a results oriented thinker. I need to see actions that lead to results. I don't see that. Part of that is it's hard to have a "class consciousness score". But beyond our work building some bus benches and building some menstrual hygiene kits for homeless people... I don't have a win I can point to. I like doing the charity stuff but what I really want is to see we can force a concession out of a business or city council member.

I'm not trying to pick on PSL. They're just the ones speaking at the protests. All left orgs leave me wanting something more effective. At least with elections, and we all love elections here, there's a clear goal, a clear end date, and you can measure your effectiveness down to the neighborhood level...

Part of me wonders if I don't have the right brain for this. I'm not a people person to start with (yaay Autism) and this not-concrete "sway the masses" stuff just doesn't compute with my mind.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a results oriented thinker

how many people an org mobilizes to a march is a concrete result, is it not?

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, if it led to some sort of tangible result. I guess what I'm missing and critical of is how to get from people in the streets to people taking power? Because all my life I have seen lots of these marches and big rallies and not a single bill or vote changed because of them.

[–] calidris@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

What you're looking for is organizing. Labor organizing, tenant organizing, and organizing mass orgs (educational, mutual aid, etc.).

This is where the power of the party can truly be utilized.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

these demonstrations are actually for the people- and are a method of mass communication that can spread consciousness and when well timed and thoughtful can elevate the agency of the masses of people

its a major blindspot at the moment that people don't understand the purpose of demonstrations. it feels like even on hexbear we've normalised the same attitude that 14 year olds on reddit tend to spread- that its all self indulgent counter productive nonsense.

Its a shame because people do get activated at these things and if not that, then at least better primed to absorb radical messaging in future.

Not that i blame anyone, especially No Kings seems to be a platform for everyone, so alongside the revolutionary current there's also the establishment libs trying to ride the wave, which leads to mindkill propaganda from them becoming associated with getting out and getting red mad and nude with your community.