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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 184 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Its amazing how shitty the US is behaving, to the point where the theocratic authoritarian government of Iran is looking like the good guys.

It's an authoritarian theocracy. How the fuck is the bar to be better than them so low, yet they still fuck it up?

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Iran murdered Thousands oft protestes a few months ago.

We all know that they don't care about their people.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

Not questioning that they killed protesters, but I've yet to see any kind of reputable sources backing up the absurd totals that some have reported.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 19 hours ago

The US is also an authoritarien theocracy. In god we trust

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago

It's not "shitty", that's just pure evil. And then the double tap. US is just pathetic on a whole another scale.

And behaving? It's not the first time they've done something like this.

I hope the world never lets them forget all the atrocities they've caused but we know how the pitty patty moral astroturfing, victim blaming, strawman, narcissism, ignorance that appears every time defending it.

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Most people don't seem to be able to view both sides as bad. I feel for civilians on all sides, because they are the ones dying and suffering. Caught between murderous assholes.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

most westerners don't seem to be able to view the empire eclipses every other evil in the world by a big margin.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I can’t think of anyone who thinks any side is good except the brainless sycophants who believe the lies from trump and his Ministry of Truth. Maybe it’s because of my time on Lemmy, but people seem to understand that Iran is shitty, but not shitty enough to manufacture the excuses to do what trump is doing.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 37 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Feel exactly the same as an american. No one here wanted to get involved. It defies party lines, literally no one wants it. We had the largest protest in our country's history on Saturday and they will do nothing. It wastes billions of our tax dollars while our people can't afford food. Its a couple of dozen people at the absolute top who are pulling the levers here, while ignoring what the people want.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 14 hours ago

You can't be the victim and perpetrator at the same time.

It didn't defy party lines either, a quarter of American citizens are suicidally/homicidally religious and they support the war.

[–] JamieDub86@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TBH i dont think that those at the top care what you want....

Exactly the problem unfortunately. It's extremely demoralizing. I'm still proud, like I said the largest protest in our history, I've never seen more Americans this motivated before, but I hope the organizers plan to do something. They don't care about protests. They just let them go knowing everyone will go back to work the next morning. However, if they go too far the propaganda machine will simply pick up and say whatever it needs to and people eat it up happily. My uncle steadfastly believes that the majority of protesters are in fact "paid actors". Millions of paid actors. Billions of dollars spent on it obviously.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It doesn’t defy party lines any more. MAGA just took a few weeks to receive their newest orders from daddy.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yeah, its not a binary bad/good issue and it never has been. Most issues arent, they are about proportion. Islam is poor on womens and gay rights for example, but that doesnt mean any person murdering muslims is simply off the hook because Israel generally does better on those issues (assuming the woman or gay person is not muslim, in which case israel says to murder them)

People these days who claim that Israeli crimes are fine because Muslim countries have problems are victims or perpetrators of Israeli propoganda, all with the net goal of land theft to build a greater israel. All of the middle east's murders and war crimes are about acquiring oil and land theft. And while there may not be any 100% good guys, there are some really really REALLY bad guys, and western governments are siding with the greatest evils in the region.

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The bar was on the ground, and magats brought a backhoe.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (19 children)

the theocratic authoritarian government of Iran is looking like the good guys

It's almost as though Americans have been brainwashed to believe brown people with the wrong religion are inherently evil. And, as a consequence, they find themselves on the side of a genocidal regime that venerates child murder.

It’s an authoritarian theocracy.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Anyway who act suprise should read history book. Since civil war ended, the US has always been a military based economy and always been shitty.

It just now being forced in front of people faces as they cannot easily control the internet anymore. Although with AI advancement I wouldn't be surprised they pass a bill to control what information a person read online, either by a basic firewall rules or by phone screen readers that can alter and block information on the fly.

It will start with (porn) and (child sexual content) then blaming Russia and Iran to then being the norm.

Everytime they lose control of media they have to scale back their shitty behavior before starting again.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We watched with disgust as Israel genocided Gaza, but Trump watched it and said "My turn!"

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

US is much more involved in the former, and same w Israel in the latter. They aren't exactly taking turns.

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