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https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/comments/16xyb3m/fighting_the_allied_forces_during_ww2_as_a/k3ax320/?context=3

I dont totally know the history here but just to be clear, the Red Army did this no more than the Western allies did correct?

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[-] michaelrose@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You see present day Russians commiting systemic war crimes led by a man wanted for crimes against humanity and doubt that the USSR is an egregious perpetrator of war crimes. See the holodomor. Did you think they only did mass execution and starved children but didn't commit rape?

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

I'm gonna spare you a lot of trouble and tell you three simple facts

  1. Modern Russia is not the USSR, Putin is not Stalin and conflating the two is ideological laziness

  2. There is no clean war, if you somehow believe that there was ever a war without war crimes on both sides, I have several bridges to sell you in New York

  3. The Holodomor is literally a fascist myth meant to minimize and justify the Holocaust. Most modern historians agree that at worst, it was a mismanaged famine and not an attempt to commit genocide

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jewish historians would call you a holocaust denier for validating the holdomor, the holodomor is direct Nazi propaganda, it's Nazi Holocaust minimization and apologia.

Double genocide theory is Holocaust denial.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

I find your views interesting and would like to debate you in the marketplace barbara-pit of ideas

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

You see present day Russians commiting systemic war crimes led by a man wanted for crimes against humanity and doubt that the USSR is an egregious perpetrator of war crimes.

Insomuch as Russian warcrimes in Ukraine are even a thing (extant, but heavily exaggerated, and not out of line with other similar wars), the Stalin lead USSR and Putin lead Russia are completly different regimes. This statement is essentially racist because it implies that Russians are inherently inclined towards rape or something, because otherwise the Putin regime and the Stalin led USSR have nothing in common politically.

See the holodomor.

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Holodomor https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/13vvvfs/new_way_of_determining_historical_truth_just/jm84jlj/

Did you think they only did mass execution

Executing Nazi POWs is not a bad thing. They were Nazis. The USSR actually held back on this as well.

starved children

There was no intentional starvation of anyone in the USSR.

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also naming the Soviet famine is literally stolen valor by Nazis. Using it as justification for lebensraum

The name Holodomor was chosen because it sounds like Holocaust. i.e the Holocaust of the would-be Aryan race lmao.

[-] grazing7264@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very funny that they mention starving children considering peasant landlords were doing exactly that in direct defiance of the redistributive agenda of the Soviet state.

They want to feed little children during the famine? They should thank Stalin and the peasant armies for holding the Kulaks at gunpoint to give it to them.

Kulaks would have loved to starve them out, poor people and their children were useless eaters in their eyes.

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Putin wanted by the ICC for war crimes, yet George W Bush and his criminal administration walk free. Wild.

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

The "Double Genocide" Theory - Jewish Currents https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

Stop engaging in Holocaust denial xi-gun

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