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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Mike Dulak grew up Catholic in Southern California, but by his teen years, he began skipping Mass and driving straight to the shore to play guitar, watch the waves and enjoy the beauty of the morning. “And it felt more spiritual than any time I set foot in a church,” he recalled.

Nothing has changed that view in the ensuing decades.

“Most religions are there to control people and get money from them,” said Dulak, now 76, of Rocheport, Missouri. He also cited sex abuse scandals in Catholic and Southern Baptist churches. “I can’t buy into that,” he said.

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm telling you from experience that their "community" is fake. The people are fake. Under the fake stuff that looks nice on the outside is a deep culture of judgment and shame and fear. It's not any community I would ever want. Like family get together for family's that hate each other but they fake it.

To those who will try to tell me "well not ME or MY church." I don't care and I don't believe you. I have been harmed too much too consistently by these groups.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah I guess there's an inherent danger with a community where going against groupthink is a sin

[-] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Like posting an unpopular opinion on Reddit or Lemmy. You'll get down voted to hell if your opinion differs from the majority in that sub.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That's just unpopular opinions, and I've made plenty of those before. It's very different from doing something that my community thinks is a cosmic sin that will send me to hell.

[-] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I'm struggling to see how it's different. Could you iterate a bit more? I'm a bit slow but I like learning :(

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Of course. It's the nature of the disagreement. And unpopular opinion about random topics is just an unpopular opinion. People will see me as an idiot, ignorant, or stupid. They may think I have questionable morals or priorities. But that's it. I'm just another stupid person on the Internet. I can have some of these disagreements with friends where I have an unpopular opinion, but depending on the severity it's inconsequential.

With a sin though, I've done something that goes against God's word and rules. If I don't ask for forgiveness, I will be eternally punished for it. Disagreements here are disagreements on what God says, which is heresy.

Does that make more sense?

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

There are for sure exceptions to this. But by and large this is absolutely spot on in my experience. It feels like getting together with paid actors that are hired to be your friend or sell you sometime in the end sometimes.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Under the fake stuff that looks nice on the outside is a deep culture of judgment and shame and fear.

Funny, that's what Christianity seems to be mostly about anyway.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Not really. Only God has a right to judge us.

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