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Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.
Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.
We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.
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Isn't it mandatory?
well what definitely wasn't mandatory was for her to volunteer to raid what her and Ethan called a 'terrorist town' to steal Palestinian children in the middle of the night. But she did, because she was 'bored'.
So was joining the apartheid army as a conscript back in South Africa before 1994. Still would expect some kind of remorse.
you can just go to jail for a bit instead
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if it were mandatory to join a company of genocidal death troopers I would simply not do that
I feel that. I also wasn't indoctrinated by Israel my whole life. That's not an excuse, its just context that explains the behavior. She's had a long time to unlearn that indoctrination and hasn't, that's on her.
When my dad was conscripted for 2 years he just refused orders during those 2 years. Told me it were the 2 worst years of his life but that in no way he would follow orders from a death machine.
My point is, you can be drafted and still do what you can to not help the machine. She should at least show some public remorse for what she has done, I'm okay with people changing but she doesn't indicate towards any change whatsoever so my guess is she still sees Palestinian people as not much more then animals.
I commend your father o7
I feel you. When I was in my 20s I was a bloodthirsty lib post 911. For context, I was in the 10th grade when that happened. I was not so bloodthirsty that I joined the military, but had I been conscripted, who can say? There is a reason why Bush had between a 90% to 70% approval rating at that time. Hegemony, manufactured consent, and reality building. I don't know what it is like to grow up under the settler colonial hegemony of Israel, or how hard it is to unwind that thinking. However, I know what it's like to be a disillusioned 20-year-old pumped full of rhetoric.
You can get drafted, but the conditions of your indoctrination and its power over you will determine your willingness to participate. As I mentioned in another comment, this is simply context that explains the behavior. She's had a long time to unlearn that indoctrination and, by appearances, hasn't really. I didn't find my way out of the hegemonic hedge maze until my mid-30s. I know I've said some unhinged things in my 20s that I can cringe at today, but I also know I'm not being held to account by a large audience of people either.
To be fair, I am much much less charitable towards her because she is a multimillionaire, I feel that raises the bar quite a bit lmao.
Happy you grew up comrade.
I think that is fair. I imagine that level of wealth comes with an isolating effect and leaves your perspective unchallenged on the regular.