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Kick tankies out of 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

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[-] floppade@lemm.ee 46 points 9 months ago

Eh this argues that we even have a democracy that is functional enough to undermine in the first place, and I reject that premise.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 10 points 9 months ago

Better than a single oligarch for sure.

[-] floppade@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

I’m not sure it’s that different. In place of a real personality, you get the country’s persona. With US foreign policy for example it matters little who leads because they are adhering to the persona. While the majority of Americans don’t want war, the US persona does. That results in the same thing (a population ruled by one idea set) just a hologram of person rather than an actual one.

[-] jackalope@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Bro it's very different. You think America run by Chairman Musk is indistinguishable from president Biden?

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 13 points 9 months ago

I hate the death of nuance. Yes, the US and many others are very flawed democracies, but that doesn't mean they're the same as north korea...

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah I mean the DPRK has had much more local democracy, especially since the taean work system has increased worker self management

[-] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

flawed democracies? Is this what you commies are these days? A bunch of democrats? Here I was thinking you guys had some actual ideology.

[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

Many oligarchs is better than a single oligarch. In true capitalist fashion, they are sociopathically self interested and their undermining of each other can occasionally benefit the rest of us.

And one time they almost got into a ring to fight, which was pretty funny.

[-] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Both situations are bad, but I don’t think oligarchs hinder each other that much. They compete, but in their overall control of society they are fairly unanimous, because they all share the same basic material interest to pay us as little as possible for as much work as possible and to destroy any trace of meaningful working class political power that might challenge them.

[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

For the most part, their interests align, that's true. And it could be copium to say that many is better than one - since that's what we have.

At least if there was only one oligarch, we could have direct communication - as it is now, all the oligarchs can just kinda shrug their shoulders and mumble something in the universal language of plausible deniability.

[-] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

oligarch is a group, you're thinking of autocrat

I don't know who yall are but im beginning to think this place doesn't know basic grammar

[-] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

To be fair, an oligarchy is a group. An oligarch is a single member of that group. If you're going to be a pedant...

[-] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Just sayin theres better words to use for the purpose you used it for

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Relax, not everyone has english as their first language.

[-] CatradoraSomething@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

still as much of an asshole as ever aren't you

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