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For people who switched to winter time last night, should we end this?
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I prefer standard time.
If anything, it should be inverse. I want more sunlight during winter years.
We all should just move to Arizona where they don't follow DST.
There's only one way to get more sunlight during winter days: Move closer to the equator or, better yet, to the opposite hemisphere.
Maybe we should implement Morning Daylight Saving Time and Afternoon Daylight Saving Time, where we all change our clocks at 1 pm every day back to 12 noon, and then again at midnight we set them to 1 am.
Hmm. We could do even better: shift by 2 or 3 hours every day, and so we'd get that much more productivity out of our employees! Smithers, go tell everybody!
Let's change our clocks every day so it's always sunrise at 6:25.
No thanks, that would mean it's dark at 2pm here in December.
Then let's change our clocks so 12:00 pm is always the exact middle of the day.
That's probably the ideal situation given that you'd never have to change your clock again. Well, except when traveling east or west. And setting up meetings would be a nightmare, like "let's meet tomorrow at... eh, let me see... 4:13 for you Tom, 3:48 for you Sam, 7:24 for you Jane, oh, you have another meeting at 7:41... Ok, how about... Uhm..."
So, pretty much what lead to time zones in the first place. And yes, you'd have to change your clock every day as each day is shorter (or longer) than the last one.
I was about to answer to the other poster that solar noon doesn't change throughout the year. Why does it change 15 minutes? Does the earth wobble like the moon? It's not related to leap years, is it?
I meant to make solar noon always be 12pm. Adjust the clocks everyday to keep it so.
Yes, the wobble does all kinds of things. The analemma shows how the days get longer and shorter faster and slower as the seasons progress. That's because of the axial tilt but the earth woddles a bit it's axis too.
Thanks, that makes sense.
I think you're confused.
"Standard time" is the "fall back" during winter. At the center of the time zone, the sun is at its highest point at noon. Depending on latitude, we have as little as 8 to 10 hours of daylight, with 4 to 5 hours before noon and 4 to 5 hours after noon. So sunrise is between 7 and 8 AM at the center of the time zone, and sunset is between 4 and 5 PM.
"Daylight Savings Time" is the "spring forward" during summer. The sun is at its highest point at 1PM in the center of the timezone. We have 14 to 16 hours of daylight. That's 7 to 8 hours before and after 1PM, (6 to 7 hours before noon) or a sunrise between 5 and 6 AM, and a sunset between 8 and 9 PM. (8 to 9 hours after noon.)
If we maintained DST through the winter, sunrise would be as late as 8 to 9 AM on the shortest day of the year, (December 21st) and sunset would be between 5 and 6 PM.
I want the clock to move forward an hour in the winter so that the sun sets later during the evening, since that's the time I'm most productive, lol. I'm perfectly fine with 8-9 AM sunrises.
I'm discussing all this in fun. Nothing to be taken seriously here.
Ok. Fully agreed.
That's "daylight savings time", not "standard time".
Standard time = bad. DST leaves you with that extra hour of daylight in the evening.