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[-] Ceres@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

I think I just couldn't tell if you were suggesting 'buying or not buying harmful products doesn't make a difference' to mean supporting carnist stuff is fine, cause it felt like an odd inclusion but I getcha now.

But yeah I was, in response, arguing the importance of still considering consumption habits in your veganism, which comes from my mechanistic worldview thinking that everything has an affect on something, so what should instead be the limiting factor for these decisions is stuff like privilege (instead of util priorities), which ends up at the same stance as you (I think). Anxiety over my political alienation making me min-max my veganism lol.

[-] WithoutFurtherRelay@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My beliefs boil down to: As a boycott, whether or not any one person buys animal products matters much less than if we get as many people not buying animal products as possible. Or more precisely, our goal is the total destruction or the meat industry, not just changing our consumer choices.

And, because the meat industry will continue murdering as long as we fail to destroy it, buying their products is harmful because it indicates there is still demand for their murder, not because it is murder directly in and of itself. Is there a difference? Kind of. It helps up both keep in mind that veganism is a radical movement, not a diet, and that our family members aren’t sociopaths. Or maybe I’m just coping.

[-] Ceres@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

That's a good summary ill have to use it vegan-seitan

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