this is my first comment here, just wanted to say that it's so nice to find a corner of the internet where i can be an openly vegan communist and vibe with similar ppl. I'm so tired of tiptoeing around "based" carnists that go full chud once you eat a veggie burger in front of them or ask them to not be speciesist. sorry for the mushy comment but ty yall 😭

the meme: "you're just lazy, right?"
the comments: "how dare you call me lazy, I actually enjoy hurting others"

you guys know there's a such thing as humane and carbon-negative pork right?

I would simply do photosynthesis

Idea for a bit: a vegan Objectivist who lets the trolley hit the pig because he wasn't going to eat the pig anyway.

Pretty disgusted at the carnism in this thread.

As a centrist, for a compromise I will only pull the lever half way.

We don't have enough edgy carnists comments in here so idk guess I would murder the pig or whatever, not like it has any feelings, and my momentary enjoyment of its taste is worth more than its life. I am a good leftist btw.

My only problem with this meme is that it implies that every time you eat meat you commit murder, when in reality, the horrific meat industry will continue to murder regardless of whether or not you as a single individual choose to consume it’s products. The belief that an individual decision to not eat an animal “saves” that animal is what is partially behind disgusting subversions of veganism, such as “plant-based” capitalism.

I would draw a comparison with ingredients such as palm oil. Palm oil is obtained primarily through literal slave labor, but individually purchasing palm oil products (of which make up the vast majority of products in general) does not really change anything. On the other hand, if you had a concentrated, influential movement to stop buying palm oil products, refusing to buy them could empower that movement and contribute to the end of that slavery.

But, that does not mean that veganism is an invalid movement. Far from it. It simply means that the onus to become vegan is because it empowers a social movement that can end this horrific industry, rather than because of a individualistic consumer choice.

This is why I have a hard time morally judging my friends and family for not being vegan, but are vegan myself. Veganism is a political position, and I treat it similarly to the people I care about being . I should correct them when I can, but they are not individually terrible people for having the wrong political opinions (and, to a degree, behavior).

vegan thread breaks containment

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I see the post

I see 200 comments

Protect pigs, eat beans.

can someone please explain why vegans are allowed to engage in sectarian gatekeeping? Anarchists and MLs are rightly prevented from fighting about who is and isn't a real leftist, that should extend to vegan users not saying we're not real leftists for eating meat or using animal products.

Carnist Catch 22, if it hits the beans then they'll be destroyed and you'll have to eat the pig to survive.

Muh multi tracking pork and bean treats hue hue hue

Sounds like we need another Dominion viewing.

pushing the lever becos i don't have a can opener and I'm thinking about thos beans