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The point of the right to bear arms is to have some defense against an oppressive government if needed.
No it is not.
Want to get Republicans to jump on gun control? Just have minorities show up exercising their right to bear arms.
Ask Reagan.
That's also a great way to get a bunch of brown people shot
Worked in California with minimal shootings.
Police kill on average 1k civilians a year...aka 1/40 of all gun deaths, including the 66% of the 40k~ a year that are suicides.... the majority of which are minorities...so no it's not working.
Republicans backed gun control. that's what "worked".
Republicans aren't gun owners, they just use it as a wedge issue to get votes. They, just like the NRA, would love to make only rich people be able to afford defensive tools. Thinking that all gun owners are Republicans is hilarious.
i think you aren't following this conversation.
Yes it is, but you do you and your history changing...gun control is rooted in racism btw.
No, not really, even in the wild West towns would force you to surrender your firearms to the sheriff before you could go anywhere else in town.
Just because Reagan was a racist about it doesn't mean the very concept itself is racist.
Honestly I have no hope for gun control in the US. What ever version we get will be so riddled with concessions it probably will be pretty racist.
What mental gymnastics did you perform to come to the conclusion that gun control is rooted in racism
Edit: history
It's pretty well known that the Black Panthers movement back in the 1960s and '70s that promoted black people to open carry weapons was a huge motivation for Republicans, the NRA and Ronald Reagan to pass gun control legislation.
Yes that's right, I said the NRA supported gun control regulation:
https://www.apa.org/pubs/highlights/spotlight/issue-269
And
https://californialocal.com/localnews/statewide/ca/article/show/4412-california-gun-control-reagan-black-panthers/
I think there's some documentaries about it as well.
It's literally the reason behind much of the first gun control laws. Things were fine until whites got scared when they realized African Americans have the same access to guns and they might start defending themselves against the oppression they continued to face in America. Similar to drug law, gun control is very much rooted in racism and NIMBY mentality.
Yep, armed minorities are harder to oppress. Gun control targets minorities the most.
The only time the NRA actually agreed with Gun Control was literally as soon as the black panthers became a thing
ronald regan didn't like the black panthers
edit:
look at this!
Ah, I love the way this baits the Reagan jerkers.
it's so beautifully constructed. from the "worked hand in hand with the nra" bit, to the fucking QUOTE FROM MARX . i've considered recreating it from time to time but this version is just chefs kiss.
You really don't know the roots of gun control do you?
Yes it is.
Historians could only "uncover" this reason because it's buried under the actual reasons. All the rationale behind the constitutional amendments was highly documented at the time, public, and easily accessed and referenced.
You mean including the highly documented rationale that historian uncovered?
By the way, do you really think you could defeat the U.S. military with your gun collection? Even if you and a bunch of buddies got together?
First of all, fuck this racist guy commenting to this thread. I hate that his kind are so often associated with people like myself who believe our population should remain armed.
Second of all, the military cannot be called into domestic affairs, so your "question" is irrelevant. Maybe read more about history and the constitution before spurging your nonsense all over the place.
But mostly... fuck racists, especially kleenbhole.
Where does the Constitution say the military cannot be involved in domestic affairs? You are probably thinking of the Posse Comitatus Act, which does limit the use of the U.S. military in domestic affairs, but wasn't passed until 1878 and could be repealed.
As to your second paragraph, yep, yes, sure. We got beat by a bunch of illiterate desert goat rapists and jungle Asians. Just need to outlast the political will of the oligopoly
Wow, that's the most racist thing I've read in ages.
Don't get out much?
Why, would getting out more make me a racist?
No, I'm saying what I said was mild, and you should get out more to see what real racism looks like. I'm just talking some mild shit about some crappy broke ass cultures that resisted the full might of America. If you clutch pearls that I called the Taliban a bunch of goat rapists, you should see how they describe YOU.
"I'm not that much of a racist" isn't the defense you think it is.
The fuck? Reported.
Yes it is. everyone is racist. just a little bit, but everyone is. That's why I don't trust your generation that denies it.
What is my generation?
Missionary I assume
In other words, you have no idea and just said something in the hopes of being inflammatory.
I wonder if "my generation" is older or younger than yours?
I assume anyone on here is younger than me. My great grandpa was too old for the civil war.
Buried under the actual reasons? That somehow contradict the uncovered reason? Sounds like bullshit to me.
Then how did bullshit theory that guns were to overthrow the government get buried for so long?
it wasn't buried.
Ain't no slaves now. You want to disarm black people so they can't fight back.
The irony that I'm black then.
And you're anti-gun? You mostly fuck educated white women or something?
Am I not black enough? Lol
This guy is an out-and-out racist and his 'excuse' for it is 'everyone is racist some people are more racist than I am.'
Yeah sounds about right
Not country enough
Why am I not even slightly surprised that you're against a black person having sex with a white person?
Well it depends. if your parents are rich it's fine.