533
Nonbinary Teacher in Florida Fired for Using Mx. Title
(www.advocate.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
533 points (95.1% liked)
News
22488 readers
6326 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
They're abbreviations for master and mistress. Of course those are archaic etymologies, but that's how they evolved into abbreviations.
The strange thing is that Mx is an abbreviation that doesn't have a basis in a word as far as I know. It's literally conforming to those heteronormative traditions and adapting them with an "X" bandaid.
The point is that the teacher is non binary and forced to choose an honorific. They wanted to use a neologism because there isn't an established term and they were fired because of bigotry. It doesn't really matter if the term makes sense to you or anyone else, it was their choice.
Your comments reek of the same smug shittiness of people who throw a fit about they\them pronouns not being "grammatically correct" when singular they has been in use for ages.
Non binary people exist, and if they are required by their job to use a formal title, they should have one that recognizes who they are.
Your knee-jerk reaction is that any criticism of the word is a criticism of non-binary people. I explicitly made a point to explain that's not the case. And I used "they" in my first comment, so I have no idea where you're coming from.
Treating any discussion as black and white and immediately becoming defensive isn't helping as much as you think.
There are plenty of titles they could use. The issue is this school rejected those other titles too, and that's not right.
You sound like you're the type of person who gets offended for other people when in fact, those other people aren't offended in the first place. I wish I could downvote you more than once
I don't want to send me kids to a school where the teachers intentionally try to impose their made up beliefs on them. Is it too much to ask for teachers to stick to the subjects they are supposed to teach?
Their comment doesn't read this way at all. You're just arguing past them.
Lol, you westerners
Or should I say, westernxs
I kinda feel the same about Xe/Xim. I think the reasoning is just "they have to abide by the same conventions or people won't get it." It would be a lot cooler to just fully break away from those traditions and have something more eloquent, but language keeps taking the path of least resistance.
Sounds like a first world problem if I have ever heard of it. I think you can survive going as Ms or Mr.
Mr./Mrs. are evolutions of language, like you said. They don't really refer to the original words for the most part. Mx. is an evolution of the same language and just as easy to pronounce. Sure, it's a "bandaid" if you want to call it that, but the English language is 90% bandaids. To rule out this one when there isn't a good alternative for general use (prof. or teacher would be fine for this person, but not for someone who's not a teacher) is pretty narrow minded.