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For those looking for a source, I looked into it and yes the source is the CCPs claims. We all know how trustworthy CCP statistics are.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-07732-5
Basically, satellite imagery seems to "strangely" conflict with CCP figures.
That GFC study contradicts the many studies using both older datasets and newer datasets:
CAS: https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/mutimedia_news/202203/t20220322_302792.shtml
UNESCO: http://www.unesco-hist.org/index.php?r=en/article/info&id=1714
Journal of Geophysical Research: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2022JG007101
Remote Sensing: https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/13/13/2592
International Journal of Remote Sensing: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01431161.2021.2022804
International Journal of Digital Earth: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2023.2190625
In science, we call this "cherrypicking data." Colloquially, we understand this to be because someone fucked their experimental validation. In the real world, we call this "disseminating misinformation."
I love how every thread with positive news about China will have at least one chud who can't even spell CPC properly bleat about statistics from China not being reliable. Get back in your basement.
At least China is saying something is a good thing that I agree is a good thing. That’s progress of a sort.
CPC is for people that have read CCP propaganda.
Actually it's the opposite. CPC is the actual name of the party, and CCP is the name brainwashed western idiots use for some weird reason. It's like if I started insisting spelling USA as SUA and then acting like that makes sense. Anytime somebody uses CCP they expose themselves as an utter imbecile whose opinions can be safely ignored.
American United States
AUS
Does it matter? It's a translation of a foreign Language, and hardly anyone uses the real names of countries. They are usually longer and in languages you don't speak.
Yeah, it does matter. There is an official translation from the party and there's a made up one that edgelords in the west use for some reason.
CCP: Chinese Communist Party
CPC: Communist Party of China
They are basically the same and mean exactly the same thing. I don't really see the issue.
I don't think it's edgelords using it I think basically everyone does. It's used because it's used. You are making it sound like its an intentional psyop.
It's like when people say Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party.
United States of America and American United States is basically the same thing, we should just ignore what USA calls itself and use AUS instead. The question is why westerners choose to use a different name than the official one chosen by the party. Maybe you can enlighten us what the reason for doing this is.
90% sure that is a rhetorical statement but I am going to try and answer it anyway.
It's the same reason why a vaccume cleaner is called a hoover. A hoover is a vaccume cleaner. A vaccume cleaner is not always a hoover, yet loads of people call the floor sucker hoover no matter if the brand is a Hoover or not.
Nobody really care if someone says "I am getting the hoover" and pulls out a Dyson. Everyone was expecting some kind of floor sucker with maybe a select few expecting an actual Hoover.
You can ignore what the official name of the USA is. People already do that. They the USA America all the time already. AUS will be a little confusing at the start as many associate that with Australia but get enough people together to call the USA, the AUS instead and it's not going to be wrong.
A good example of people not using the correct name of a country is the UK ain't nobody using the full name the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are they? The initialism is wrong too it should be UKGBNI
That's a nonsensical argument to be honest. Again, nobody is calling the UK Kingdom United. All the names for UK stem from the way people of UK choose to call themselves, these aren't imposed on them from outside.
The fact that people in the west insist on deliberately calling the party differently from the way party chooses to call itself shows an incredible amount of chauvinism.
Only thing brits get pissed off about is calling the UK England, because all the countries hate England including probably the English.
I don't see how it's nonsensical. Makes perfect sense to me. Call the country what people know the country as. You want to call the United Kingdom, Kingdom United do it. You will obviously get raised eyebrows because you will only be the one calling it that.
I don't really know what more I can say.
You still haven't answered the original question why westerners insist on calling CPC differently from what it officially calls itself or what the rationale for that is.
I have. You just disagree with it.
you really haven't
... Then either I don't posses the words to sufficiently explain it to you or you need to rephrase the question.
It's likely a mixture of both.
seems to me that you don't actually have an explanation for why westerners refuse to use the name CPC which is the official name of the party
Seems to me you won't accept any explanation except for your own. I think we are devolving into an argument.
Seems to me that you failed to provide an explanation, and refuse to acknowledge that. Clearly there's not much point continuing the discussion.
What do you think this means?
It means that you think you've answered the question when you very clearly haven't. Again, the reason people in the west would choose to intentionally keep misspelling the name of the party is very clear, but if you feel the need to keep doing mental gymnastics you do you.
Okay then I shall see you at the Olympics for mental gymnastics then. We should get silver and gold. This is just Ad Hominen on both sides now.
Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó (中華人民共和國) is the actual name of the country, why did you refer to it as China? "China" likely comes from poor translations of the Qin Dynasty.
It's been the CCP for years. Even in 2016, it was the CCP in the CCP's own official translation of Xi Jinping's speech. CCP can't just rebrand because it got bad press and expect non-propagandized nations to go along with it.
https://u.osu.edu/mclc/2023/04/06/ccp-or-cpc/