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Tall trucks, SUVs are 45% deadlier to US pedestrians, study shows
(www.reuters.com)
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Fifth wheel. If you don't know what that is, you should probably avoid having a strong opinion on this.
Niche of a niche. Never seen one in my entire life, lived in 4 countries.
What do you expect to use for hauling livestock? These can have a tow weight of 10,000 lbs, which is much more than you can do with a regular hitch. The fact that you've never personally seen this does not mean anything.
I've seen a million of these.
https://indespension.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/77eef5ac2f1d972e1ca198c5741eab71/l/v/lv35126dgx_1_1.jpg
I've seen a hundred F150 hauling jack shit.
That can haul a livestock. How about 12? Or would you like them to make more trips (with proportional use of gas and risk of accident)?
As for F150s hauling nothing, that's kinda my point. There's a market above it that actually does work (F250 and up), and there's a market that ought to exist underneath it (what used to be the Ranger, which is now much larger). You're targeting the wrong group by focusing on trucks that haul 10,000 lbs.
Wait, how often do you need to haul stock with your F250? If every day, then it's more optimal to by having a dedicated livestock truck, Like Volvo FL.
If you're only moving livestock occasionally, but driving F250 daily, you're compensating for your tiny weiner and shitting in the air that everyone breathes
Farmers haul big, heavy things around all the time. If this is news to you, then again, maybe you should step back and stop having strong opinions on things you don't know anything about.
Van. The stupid huge compensator truck nonsense is a US-only thing. Rest of the world is getting by fine with efficient vehicles.
Just because that's your experience doesn't mean it's true.
Edit: How do you do this with a van?
What do you mean 'my experience'? These idiotic 'trucks' don't exist outside America.
Ah yes, the daily drive to the shop with my two tractors. So you either drive that without two tractors 99% of the time or you're driving the wrong vehicle. If you need to haul two tractors you do it properly - you hire a specialist with a specialist equipment. What is pictured in your picture is reckless and idiotic.
Do you have any idea how big American farms are? You can go miles and be on the same farm. That's why American farmers have their own equipment for that.
Why do you think vans are any better? A lot of them are made on exactly the same platforms as the trucks you're deriding, and have similar gas mileage. A Ford E350 is basically an F350.
What do you think those "specialty operators" would use?
You have no idea what you're talking about.
God, you're so deep up your own ass that you think the world = the US. Quite typical, didn't know what I was expecting.
I have nothing against farmers doing whatever they wish within their own territory, with whatever vehicles they wish.
If I see a "truck" like that outside of this very niche scenario, I immediately think "macho moron" or "US tourist". Usually both.
Same right back. If American farms are bigger, they just might have a few differences in how they operate.
You've successfully moved the goalposts from:
"People need these cars!! They're not tiny penis enlargers!"
To: "People in US, no, Farmers in US, no, Farmers in US that own incredibly large farms need these cars!! How are they going haul two tractors at once within their own farm!"
Yeah, they're very useful indeed...
Clarification is not goalpost moving. You're just as clueless about logical fallacies.
Yeah, you've definitely clarified that it's a pointless vehicle.
I've seen a million of these.
https://indespension.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/77eef5ac2f1d972e1ca198c5741eab71/l/v/lv35126dgx_1_1.jpg
I've seen a hundred F150 hauling jack shit.