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The NRA is slowly dying
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Good. The modern NRA has been the worst thing for guns rights in years. Wayne LaPierre can rot in hell.
It'd be one thing if they were only opposed by people for more gun control, but they aren't even really good at their core mission. All they do is simp for the GOP, even when doing so runs counter to their stated agenda.
Fixed it for ya.
JFC, really? I'm not up on the latest NRA lore but that sounds too bad to be true.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44885633.amp
This article is a bit old, after it was written Butina went back to Russia and is now a member of theit legislature.
I keep reading and it keeps getting worse. HOW?
well, citizens united mostly, but also because the GOP knows no shame, even dead children and collaborating with the russians.
citizens united. Those justices have decided to be on the infamous side of history.
The NRA is a marketing team for gun manufacturers, and what sells guns is fear of gun bans. The NRA does everything in their power to fuel those fears.
Pro and anti gun alike hate them. It's mostly just boomers keeping them going.
They aren't a gun rights organization. They aren't even a manufacturer's organization. They are Republican shills, first, last, and always.
I was finally convinced they had abandoned gun owners when they endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012. When a gun rights organization openly endorses the signer of a gun ban, there is something deeply wrong.
Did they endorse Reagan, too? He signed a gun ban.
That was slightly before my time, but yes, they did endorse Reagan in 1980 and 1984, and Reagan had signed the Mulford Act 13 years earlier. The Mulford act wasn't a gun ban per se; it prohibited carry of loaded firearms without a permit.
Reagan went on to support the Brady Bill and the 1994 AWB after his presidency. Reagan also banned carry in national parks. Clinton and 2 Bushes didn't undo that mistake; Obama fixed it in his first month in office.
But I digress: the NRA has done far more for the Republican Party than it has done for gun rights.
It's the same story with evangelical groups like Focus on the Family: They're just shills for Republicans, and are actively hurting their religion in the process.
That sudden ray of light is Huey P smiling.
Exactly. I belonged to the NRA way back when they were a safety and information organization. They began to sell high priced commemorative hunting guns, then commemorative military guns. Soon they started selling military style guns like the M1 Garand rifle and the M1 carbine. I quit. Their push continued into modern M16s while simultaneously pushing scare articles to convince people of dangers so great that they would need buy military style weapons. The NRA degenerated into a money and greed operation that became the opposite of its origins intent.
They've even wormed their way into schools. They have "Eddie the Eagle" that teaches elementary school kids gun safety. With NRA logos all over the place, of course. I was disgusted when my daughter brought the information home.
Absolutely kids should be taught gun safety. They just shouldn't get it with a heaping helping of NRA.
Gun safety was one of their original missions and where quite successful at it before they turned into a fear mongering lobbying group.
Someone else needs to do it now. But I'm guessing the NRA gives school systems plenty of money to use their program.
There can be only one.
I'd say it started with Harlan Carter. He was the one who decided that the NRA should be all about the profits of gun manufacturers, and not about safe and sane gun culture.
Gun culture is just a different and insane thing in the US. We have a bit of it in Canada and gun issues in the cities, but guns are highly regulated here, maybe too much in some specific aspects. I'm in favor of less restrictions for historical pieces similar to historical cars where you can apply for that status.
Where I'm from lots of people have guns but there's not really a gun culture, they're basically used for animal defense. Last incident I know of was a deliriously sick coyote getting in to a horse paddock in daylight.
The NRA changed American thinking from "guns are tools that we sometimes need for protection" to "GUNS ARE THE ONLY THING PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FREEDOM!!!1!!!".
They can rot in hell.
You just know there's so many Americans with guns who can't wait to kill someone for the right reason in the most violent way, it's like their fantasy.
I was listening to an American at a work outing once who got inspected at the Canadian border, and she was ranting about how they thought she had a gun and were checking everywhere. I'm sympathizing cause that sucks, then she's like "but they never checked my purse where I kept my gun!" and it's like fuck sakes woman, you certainly made your point...