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I mean thats sounding like he is good because he avoided being as bad as his party could be. Not seeing anything making him better than biden, clinton, obama, carter necessarily.
Three out of the four that you mentioned there worked to serve the needs of corporations. One of them created the toxic radical right-wing fascist talk radio environment that we've been suffering from for the past 30 years, and another one allowed a scotus pick to be taken and legalized propaganda.
Ok so if any of them served during ikes time by not doing anything they would have done as well as him. Im not so sure he would have done as well in their situations. Who the heck created the right wing radio and how exactly? By being a talking point? And Obama did not allow a scotus pick to be taken. What do you think he should have done to stop it. Nothing like ike did. It seems like you are lionizing ike because he walked into the position when the country was in a much better position. Your 3 of 4 would be 3 post reagan which again the one left was in a bit of a better situation although not as nice as ike being post nixon. I really think you are being to hard on the more recent presidents and to nice to ike.
what pisses me off is someone pawning this off on clinton. This bill passed with veto proofed majority so of course he signed it. No president vetoes a bill when that is the case because it makes them look bad and just wastes everyone's time. Granted that was back when the republicans still compromise some so no one was looking to iritate people they had to work with for no reason.
no he should not have. again it was a time were some compromises could come about and not the cluster of dysfunction we had today. don't get me wrong it was well on its way but there was at least at that time some hope for it. It did not get totally buried until obama.
Yes, he absolutely should have, and maybe someone would have figured out why the the fascists wanted that law. Instead Democrats INCLUDING CLINTON said "gee, conservatism really does need some extra free speech rights!.." Yes, that was their reasoning: defend "free speech" in the "marketplace of ideas" while making sure that any opposing voices would be eliminated. It was as fucking stupid then as it is now.
Your dragging all sorts of things into it (other members of congress). It was a veto proof majority and acting like dick republicans of today would not have helped 30 plus years ago. You seem to have no concept of that time period at all.
the democrats follow the law and don't try to cheat like the republicans. put the blame on the criminal and not the person who failed to protect the victim ehough. this is just so rediculous.
O really? Who devised the rule systems that McConnell used to usurp the Senate?
this goes back to the democrats not being as bad as the repbulicans. They just have not manipulated the rules in their favor the way the republicans have and retain historical norms longer. Yeah they eventually change do to repbulican dickish behavior but they would not be a better party by beating them to the punch on that.