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Protester sets self on fire outside Israeli consulate in Atlanta, suffers critical burns (www.pbs.org)

submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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A protester was in critical condition Friday after setting themself on fire outside the Israeli consulate in Atlanta, authorities said. A security guard who tried to intervene was also injured.

A Palestinian flag found at the scene was part of the protest, Atlanta Police Chief Darin Schierbaum said at a news conference.

He added that investigators did not believe there was any connection to terrorism and none of the consular staff was ever in danger.

“We do not see any threat here,” he said. “We believe it was an act of extreme political protest that occurred.”

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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Conflict started way before the 7th, but tensions did escalate and it became known to the World due to it.

Wonder how the narrative will change due to the new findings that it was known one year before it happened.

The conflict began after the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas and other militants, who killed about 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in southern Israel and took around 240 people captive. More than 15,200 people have been killed by Israel’s assault on Hamas-controlled Gaza, according to the Health Ministry there.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, they also left off the incredibly tone deaf statements from the consul… in reference to the security guard and highest value being the sanctity of life; and how self immolation was done out of hate for Jews…

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you have a source or what findings confirmed it was self immolation due to religious persecution?

Aside from Israel gov't sources, they tend to push for religious persecution at any chance they get, similar to AIPAC (Zionist, Foreign lobby group in the US).

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/protester-self-immolates-outside-israeli-consulate-atlanta-2023-12-01/

"We are saddened to learn of the self-immolation at the entrance to the office building," the consul general of Israel to the southeastern U.S., Anat Sultan-Dadon, told ABC News. "It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way. The sanctity of life is our highest value."

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/post/9029514 was the original post with it. from that article:

In a statement, the consul general of Israel to the south-east US, Anat Sultan-Dadon, said that the diplomatic mission is "saddened to learn of the self-immolation at the entrance to the office building".

"It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way," she added.
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"The sanctity of life is our highest value. Our prayers are with the security officer who was injured while trying to prevent this tragic act".

I'm not saying that it was religious persecution- it was done in protest of the war in Gaza, and one almost never sets oneself on fire because you hate somebody else... like usually it's in extreme protest to violence... not something done out of hatred at all.

was just pointing out that the statement- the incredibly tone deaf statement- was dropped from the PBS article.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Thank you for taking the time to clarify!

It was my fault for misunderstanding your original statement!

Have a great day!

[+] NightAuthor@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If ~~they~~ Jews want me to hate the Jews, then as someone with no problem with Jewish people, I guess the polite thing to do is to hate the Jews.

Edit: but apparently it’s not the Jews pushing this, but specifically Zionists. In which case the above conditional is rendered moot.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe it's because I am a Jew, but I would say that the polite thing to do would be to tell them to fuck off with their bullshit claims of antisemitism.

For fuck's sake, no one sets themselves on fire in the name of bigotry.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I feel like any Jew who calls any of these sorts of actions, any anti Zionist protests, anti-Semitic, is at worst a fake Jew and at best a disappointment for Jews. Because how do you support zionists, this ethnic cleansing, after Jewish people had to go through the Holocaust? The amount of mental gymnastics you have to go through to not see the equivalence between this and what Nazi Germany did is insane.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

edit: removed sentence to stick to point

I would suggest to restrain from hating groups, even if some act in a way you don't agree with.

Reminds me of what Yanis said:

but let me say something about power racism and i will add patriarchy i don't believe that we have the answers

to these things in my in you know this is a novel and in it i try to make it absolutely clear

that i do not believe that my side of politics even my very

quaint version of socialism even if we manage to sort out all the problems with corporations with the power of capital

to exploit to reproduce itself and so on that we can deal with patriarchy

or racism discrimination runs very deeply in our societies and you know we can reduce the toxicity

which always breeds more racism and more xenophobia and more sexism

but i'm pessimistic about human nature we

really need i you know i look into myself and i find a nazi living in me a racist living in me a sexist living in me

i constantly have battles with me with myself and anybody who tells me that you're not like that you're lying

we are all like this we all have a dark side and we all need to fight constantly against it

Time stamp: 1:20:36

Can we Fix Capitalism? Yanis Varoufakis vs Gillian TettIntelligence Squared

https://youtu.be/Gv6130kSzEY?si=gMZvGTZ8HXYbAGRq&t=4836

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please don't.

They do want you to hate Jews, Zionism is fundamentally a project about promoting antisemitism around the world to force Jews to flee to Israel. You playing into that strategy is exactly what they want.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Well, if it’s zionists wanting me to hate all Jews, then I guess I’ll have to continue being neutral to Jews, and hating zionists.

Not that I really have the energy or concentration needed to hate something for more than the instant it triggers me.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I predict Bibi will be fired, North Gaza will be annexed, and hopefully both Likud and Hamas will be replaced by leadership more likely to agree on viable peace terms.

This may be their last chance to make peace because demographic shift in Israel is leading to more right-wing fundies in the country who don't want any peace or compromise at all.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I hope your predictions come to pass... This has been going on for far too long.

But I'm a kiwi, and its probably my privilege that I cannot fathom how two peoples (religions?) cannot coexist together peacefully. That just blows my mind, but we've never been invaded or really even had to go to war properly (we help a bit here and there, but I don't think there was ever a real requirement - I could be wrong here?)