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Texas attorney general says he will sue doctor who gives abortion to Kate Cox
(www.theguardian.com)
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Reading this as a non-American, it feels surreal. How can such a basic right be stripped from all women, and then have men stand up and defend such a disgusting situation. Do they have no shame? No moral compass?
Don’t forget the contempt for law and order - ignoring a court decision for personal beliefs as an AG
As a Canadian it makes me feel like we need to grant asylum to American refugees
Can I stay at your house if Trump wins or steals the next election?
I checked when Trump was elected and I don't meet the requirements to get a visa unless I already have a job in Canada or I go back to school :(.
Americans probably don't meet the legal requirements yet because there are still a lot of places in the US where you can escape this kind of fuckery. Things could easily change in a few years, though, if people on the left keep acting like spoiled brats and refuse to vote against Trump and company.
We did so during the Vietnam war, so there is precedent.
They don't. That's what it means to be a Republican.
I don't like the other person's response about republican shame/morality. I think it's important to understand why these people do the things they do. Pretending they're mustache-twirlingly evil doesn't do anything but blind you to their rhetoric and remove your options for dealing with them. It's hyperbole (in most cases) and makes fence-sitters less likely to believe you.
Their moral compass is defined by christian nationalism. There are in-groups that must be supported and protected (republicans, white "upstanding" americans, whatever they presume that is), and out-groups that must be punished/jailed/worse (LGBTQ+, minorities, anyone left of Ron DeSantis).
They do this because their christian nationalism beliefs inform them that women need to be controlled, and they're using the medical system to do this. If this was Paxton's wife, he would have gotten her an "abortion" without noise, but I struggle to even use that word to describe what this woman needs. Her child is already dead. I mourn for her.
They cannot allow any legal exceptions for the common folk, so this woman must suffer. (Edit: And, this woman is highlighting that their system is unjust, so she is getting punished for it). They believe a woman's place is only as a child rearer, homemaker, and low-skilled labor. It is deeply cruel, true, but they also think it's justified. Ordinary Americans are appalled by these beliefs, and they need to be revealed for what they are.
There are no good Republicans, they left the party after the response to Jan 6 proved it was beyond redemption.
Cope.
I’m sorry you’ve misinterpreted what I had to say as support for republican rhetoric. There is an internal logic to their actions (which I reject categorically, their logic is wrong and can be argued against). Ignoring why they do things and just saying “they’re evil lol” without explanation gets people to ignore you.
Don't bother with this guy. I tagged them as "🤡" a while back and it instantly made my browsing experience better.
You're spot on though. If we're going to wrestle this beast, we need to understand it. The problem is complex, and the solution will be too.
Thanks for the heads up 😺
No u
I didn't misunderstand you.
I addressed your premise that they think they're acting morally.
They don't, that's why they don't mind getting their mistress an abortion, they don't believe anything they say and have no morals.
I think we’re just having a semantic disagreement then. If you asked a republican why abortion is bad you’ll get an opinion informed by their version of morality.
IMHO, They’re still fine with getting their mistress an abortion because either:
abortion is bad for society on the whole, but my circumstances are different/I made a mistake and i deserve to be able to do this
Some abortions are justified but the circumstances are so rare it’s better to make it illegal. We’re making an omelette, have to break some eggs (oh also, my abortion is one of these justified rarities)
They might feel guilty about doing this, but they absolutely believe they’re doing the right thing after it’s all said and done. It’s very human to not be able to live up to your own ideals, even if your ideals aren’t ghoulishly cruel. Honestly I think that particular type of hypocrisy is worse than some scooby doo villain we can unmask.
They’re not banning abortion for some sort of performance. At least not all of them. They absolutely believe they’re special and moral, so it’s ok if they get one. They’re responsible enough and Jesus will forgive them anyway.
Well you won't be the first person to refuse to understand that fascists only approach morality from the perspective of using it for personal benefit.
The single greatest lie they will ever tell you, like any other conman, is that they believe what they say.
All for a non-viable fetus. Not that it should matter, she should have the right to choose either way, but it makes this particularly insane.
If I was that woman's husband I would probably be in jail for trying to murder one of these idiots by this point this is infuriating
Good thing you're not.
The only thing you'd achieve would be causing her to have to deal with this BS while her husband is in jail.
Nope! Welcome to America.
It's almost funny how they pretend it's a democracy as well.
You are giving credit to the wrong people by framing it as all women losing a right and men defending that decision.
Tens of millions of American men vote for candidates who protect women’s rights.
Tens of millions of American women vote for candidates who seek to strip women’s rights.